Gunman opens fire at school board meeting

[Russic]

Originally Posted by Danijam

I don't think her hitting him with her purse changed the outcome of this one. I don't agree with her decision, and I'd say nobody on here seems to, but I know if I'd been standing in the sidelines, done nothing and people ended up dead I would always wish I'd done something...even just swung a bag at the lunatic.

It's possible it didn't change the outcome because he never wanted to actually kill anybody in the first place (beyond himself). Also, sure you'd always wonder if you could have done something had he killed, but you'd wonder the same if you tried to be a hero and ended up the reason innocent people died.

The lady is a moron and she was just as much a hazard to those people as the guy pointing the gun.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by pylon

Seriously, don't do it. It is the real deal. Maybe check out the reference material first before you see something that can never be unseen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnepropetrovsk_maniacs

Why didnt those guys get the firing squad??

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

Why didnt those guys get the firing squad??

There is no capital punishment in the Ukraine. And 15 years of hard labour is a start, but doesn't come close to the justice that needed to be administered in this case.

Truly disgusting and evil incarnate, and I thank pylon for making me aware of this case before I did something stupid and sought out the video (strange that my first thought would be two guys hitting each other with hammers). I'm a little shocked that I have heard nothing of this until now.

[arloiginla]

Originally Posted by pylon

Seriously, don't do it. It is the real deal. Maybe check out the reference material first before you see something that can never be unseen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnepropetrovsk_maniacs

Thanks for posting this. After reading the reference material I decided not to watch, when I otherwise was going to.

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by arloiginla

Thanks for posting this. After reading the reference material I decided not to watch, when I otherwise was going to.

Ditto, jesus dinkballs, that is some extremely disturbing stuff to read, let alone watch.

[Burninator]

Disarm gunman with purse = hero

Fail to disarm gunman with purse = idiot

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Ditto, jesus dinkballs, that is some extremely disturbing stuff to read, let alone watch.

I guess I don't have the stomach for this stuff cause I felt kinda ill reading what they did to that guy. Disgusting, absolutely disgusting.

[burn_this_city]

I had the unfortunate luck of viewing the Budd Dwyer video.. Not an enjoyable experience. I couldnt fathom watching that other video.

[MoneyGuy]

I wonder if Slava's glad he didn't get elected.

That video was chilling.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

I had the unfortunate luck of viewing the Budd Dwyer video.. Not an enjoyable experience. I couldnt fathom watching that other video.

I just watched this last night myself. Incredibly sad that someone would feel compelled to take things as far as he did, yet at the same time, I respect him for sticking with his convictions like that.

[puckluck]

Just watched the Budd Dwyer video and I think I'm going to throw up

[kirant]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

I had the unfortunate luck of viewing the Budd Dwyer video.. Not an enjoyable experience. I couldnt fathom watching that other video.

I certainly found the video itself hard to view (To be fair, I actually knew what it was about before opening, so I could brace myself for it). I know it's been said before, but I feel like I need to repeat it: God fataing damn, YouTube comments should be removed outright.

[puckluck]

Ok I literally need to throw up. My night has just been ruined watching that. DO NOT watch that Dwyer video.

[kirant]

Originally Posted by puckluck

Ok I literally need to throw up. My night has just been ruined watching that. DO NOT watch that Dwyer video.

I guess if people are tempted because they're told not to, it contains live footage of the suicide of Budd Dwyer and a close up of his body after he shot himself (gun in mouth). Spoilered is the ugly detail of what that close up contains.

Spoiler!

Copious amounts of blood was coming out of his nose (would be a fair % of what comes through the 4 neck arteries) and in exit wound can be seen in the back of his head

I feel a little bad writing that.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by kirant

I guess if people are tempted because they're told not to, it contains live footage of the suicide of Budd Dwyer and a close up of his body after he shot himself (gun in mouth). Spoilered is the ugly detail of what that close up contains.

Spoiler!

Copious amounts of blood was coming out of his nose (would be a fair % of what comes through the 4 neck arteries) and in exit wound can be seen in the back of his head

I feel a little bad writing that.

Just watched it.... it was like a scene like a gory movie..

[Slava]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

I had the unfortunate luck of viewing the Budd Dwyer video.. Not an enjoyable experience. I couldnt fathom watching that other video.

I saw that video about 15 years ago on VHS and I found it incredibly disturbing. To the point where it seriously caused me trouble sleeping and just thinking clearly for days after. The video I saw had a lot more involved than just him (other unrelated incidents) and was totally disturbing and disgusting.

I know I don't want to see the Ukraine video. There are some things people should just not see.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Slava

I saw that video about 15 years ago on VHS and I found it incredibly disturbing. To the point where it seriously caused me trouble sleeping and just thinking clearly for days after. The video I saw had a lot more involved than just him (other unrelated incidents) and was totally disturbing and disgusting.

I know I don't want to see the Ukraine video. There are some things people should just not see.

I'm normally a pretty big puss for that kind of stuff and comparatively speaking the Dwyer vid is relatively tame.

I've never been one to search out that kind of stuff but like lots of other people I've been shown stuff by friends.

Worst I've ever seen were pics of a motorcyclist who was in an accident and literally got ripped in half. That damaged me for a while. It was like torso with ribs showing then entrails spread all over then legs about 10 feet away. I saw the first pic or 2 in an email and just deleted it.

I've also seen clips of beheadings from ME countries like SA that bothered me.

All time worst was the famous vid, cant remember the name, shot in nightvision iirc of a guy that willingly gets mounted by a horse. A friend turned it on his comp and the second I realized what I was goin to see I walks out but I unfortunately heard some of the audio before covering my ears and to this day I get that pit in my stomach when I think about it. A friend o mine who stayed and watched it said it took her a looking time to get over how disturbing it was.

Now obviously the Dwyer vid is disturbing I think it hasn't kept me up at night or anything becaus I was warned what was in it when I saw it, it was self inflicted and there was no pain or suffering. The guy just died instantly.

[Danijam]

Originally Posted by Russic

It's possible it didn't change the outcome because he never wanted to actually kill anybody in the first place (beyond himself). Also, sure you'd always wonder if you could have done something had he killed, but you'd wonder the same if you tried to be a hero and ended up the reason innocent people died.

The lady is a moron and she was just as much a hazard to those people as the guy pointing the gun.

Pretty sure no one would be calling her a moron if she'd actually knocked the gun out of his hand.

PS Russic, my husband and I had a lot of fun stealing all your BC properties in OTW this summer. w00t!

[CaptainCrunch]

Pictures of dead bodies don't bother me. Its the smell and the actual presence of the body in my reality that bugged me.

A human body takes on a different meaning when you know that you can touch it and its there in front of you and you can smell it. Thats when you realize that it used to be more then a piece of meat.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Pictures of dead bodies don't bother me. Its the smell and the actual presence of the body in my reality that bugged me.

A human body takes on a different meaning when you know that you can touch it and its there in front of you and you can smell it. Thats when you realize that it used to be more then a piece of meat.

Now that this thread is totally derailed.

In my younger days I had the misfortune of working at a detail shop where a car was brought in that a guy decided to drive into the woods, and stick a shotgun under his chin. The car was found about a week later and brought to us by the insurance co. to try and clean out. Even with fresh air suits, you could smell it, and the smell permeated a 6000 square foot building to the point where we had to shut down for two days, after one of the idiots there left the car inside overnight. I agree with CC, the smell is something you will never forget.

After stripping the interior literally to the metal, and even clearcoating every surface, the car still ended up going to the shredder.