Margins are too slim, too many large international companies that have the resources to keep the wolves at bay. Construction companies are mostly regionally operated and frequently work with contractors.
Except that organized crime is indirectly involved in the cigarette industy, mostly by stealing them and reselling them cheap. Why wouldn't they think of doing this for dope, steal the trucks and sell it for cheap?
Maybe, but they certainly don't 'dominate' the cigarette industry. In that same vein, they're also involved in the leather jacket industry, home appliance industry, industrial supplies industry, anything they can steal. You'll never be able to stop those aspects of organized crime.
But when you make marijuana growth/distribution illegal, you open up a whole industry to 100% organized crime domination, as opposed to maybe 1-2%.
Margins are too slim, too many large international companies that have the resources to keep the wolves at bay. Construction companies are mostly regionally operated and frequently work with contractors.
Exactly. You'll find the same in tobacco, sugar, and other drug-agriculture industries. You'll also find the same in a legalized marijuana industry, that big corporations will produce and sell it and control the entire market.
And I don't care about construction, I care about the topic at hand, marijuana. I'm not saying legalizing marijuana eliminates all organized crime in every industry... just the marijuana industry.
I personally hate all the rediculous hyperboles of misinformation regarding the medical uses of pot used by some old stoner friends on mine. Seems to me everytime there's a pot legal discussion there's one of them who pipes up and says crazy crap like 'pot prevents cancer.' Sure pot can help some people with cancer by making the pain go away and increasing appitite (Because they are stoned off their ---), but I've never seen evidence to say that a joint a day is the variable that keeps the cancer away. I agree it probably should be legal, but I hate people who think that the average healthy person has something to gain from pot use. The way I see it is that pot can help some people, and also can be recreational for many whithout being any more of a danger to society than substances that are already legal.
Very few marijuana users actually believe they're healthier due to it's use. I think that's a bit of a stereotype. They know they're smoking, and that smoking is bad... I'm sure there are studies out there that show smoking a cigarette helps some physiological function, at the cost of dozens of others.
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Fair enough, isn't the same true with alcohol? People abuse it young, and it ruins their lives? By this logic, alcohol needs to go too. So does sugar, unhealthy food, and anything else the government can 'protect you from', not to mention dangerous activities like skiing, driving motorcycles, etc, etc.
I'm one of the people you mentioned above, and I hold down a sweet job, work my ass off, and am respected in my industry. As far as I'm concerned I'm proof that your point is invalid. Those people were going to be losers regardless of whether they smoked weed or not.
First and foremost, I could not care any less if someone smokes dope as long as they injure anyone else in any way while doing so.
I would then ask of your endorsement for all tobacco smokers with the same vigor and viotrol as the higlighted portion.....would you agree? Acquicesing the fact that tobacco is actually legal on both sides of the 49th.
This donkey knew what he was doing...and in short form that was playing with fire....guess what happens when one does that? One gets burned.
His decision, and its not even questionable at this time, to go through with this.
Do you not think that if I was selling alcohol to some in Saudi Arabiai that they did not have the right to prosecute me for it if proven guilty? Afterall...that is the law no matter how morally repugnant either of us feel about it.
First and foremost, I could not care any less if someone smokes dope as long as they injure anyone else in any way while doing so.
I would then ask of your endorsement for all tobacco smokers with the same vigor and viotrol as the higlighted portion.....would you agree? Acquicesing the fact that tobacco is actually legal on both sides of the 49th.
Sure... though I don't actually smoke myself, so it's not something I feel strongly about... but yeah, I have no problem with cigarettes being legal, obviously.
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This donkey knew what he was doing...and in short form that was playing with fire....guess what happens when one does that? One gets burned.
His decision, and its not even questionable at this time, to go through with this.
Do you not think that if I was selling alcohol to some in Saudi Arabiai that they did not have the right to prosecute me for it if proven guilty? Afterall...that is the law no matter how morally repugnant either of us feel about it.
Yep... that's 'the law is the law' argument. Just like people helping runaway slaves in the South way back when were 'breaking the law', and as such deserved to be prosecuted and imprisoned... right? You disobey the law, you're going to get burned, regardless of the moral justness of the law itself.
I'm not saying he didn't break the law, I'm saying the law is stupid and should be changed. I don't think I said they don't have the right to prosecute him. I'm not saying he's not guilty, I'm saying the crime he's guilty of shouldn't be a crime. I'm actually thinking about the law, and providing my own personal opinion on it, rather than just confirming that 'the law is the law and needs to always be respected and obeyed', which I don't necessarily believe... though I understand that morally unjust consequences can be levied upon an individual because of the current laws... doesn't mean I have to like it (or blindly support it as I see some doing).
Except that organized crime is indirectly involved in the cigarette industy, mostly by stealing them and reselling them cheap. Why wouldn't they think of doing this for dope, steal the trucks and sell it for cheap?
I guess I don't quite see your point... they steal everything, not just cigarettes. They steal clothes, raw materials, electronics, etc, etc. They're probably already stealing marijuana from each other. This seems to be a different argument or point.
Right now they control (I would estimate) 90% of the marijuana trade. Do they control 90% of the cigarette trade? I'd put it at more like 1%, but I don't have the statistics on that.
I just don't see why they'd control a larger portion of the (legalized) marijuana trade than, say, the cigarette or sugar or furniture trade.
I just want to know why pot is illegal but drinking isn't. How many people are killed due to smoking pot compared to drinking? (honest question)
Where I live pot is basically legal as long as you're not caught selling it so it doesn't effect me that much. I've never had a problem from anyone about it and I have smoked it almost anywhere you can think of in this city. People in Calgary would always give a funny look when you were walking down the street, Victoria they ask to join in.
IMO (and I could be bias) that the government and local/federal law enforcement could spend their time and money skipping over one of the least profitable drugs out there and actually try and crack down on the harder drugs that are actually killing people because it is mixed wrong. I just think now a days we have bigger issues to deal with than smoking weed.
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Not at all, as I've said, I would rather start with LA over any of the other WC playoff teams. Bunch of underachievers who look good on paper but don't even deserve to be in the playoffs.
I just want to know why pot is illegal but drinking isn't. How many people are killed due to smoking pot compared to drinking? (honest question)
Where I live pot is basically legal as long as you're not caught selling it so it doesn't effect me that much. I've never had a problem from anyone about it and I have smoked it almost anywhere you can think of in this city. People in Calgary would always give a funny look when you were walking down the street, Victoria they ask to join in.
IMO (and I could be bias) that the government and local/federal law enforcement could spend their time and money skipping over one of the least profitable drugs out there and actually try and crack down on the harder drugs that are actually killing people because it is mixed wrong. I just think now a days we have bigger issues to deal with than smoking weed.
You would get a funny look from me only because I'm possibly forced to breathe the smoke your exhaling - otherwise I think it's great that Victoria is so tolerant of other people's beliefs.
You would get a funny look from me only because I'm possibly forced to breathe the smoke your exhaling - otherwise I think it's great that Victoria is so tolerant of other people's beliefs.
Don't worry there is no more smoke. (Thanks Neeper)
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Not at all, as I've said, I would rather start with LA over any of the other WC playoff teams. Bunch of underachievers who look good on paper but don't even deserve to be in the playoffs.
I think we should extradite Azure to Singapore for chewing gum.
After all, it is against the law.
Right?
...Right?
How does the libertarian streak jive with a foreign country using your tax dollars to persecute a Canadian who didn't break any Canadian laws?
Not really an apt comparison. Azure chewing gum on Canadian soil doesn't affect or relate to anyone in Singapore. Emery is selling and shipping his seeds to the United States, which directly involves Americans.
