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Old 04-15-2010, 09:55 AM   #81
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I've had a cop tell me they can already give people a ticket for using a cell phone while driving but place it under another law which says you have to have two hands on the steering wheel at all times.
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Trust me, it's included.

Allows enforcement officers, at their discretion, to charge distracted drivers; They also mentioned it on Global news.
Well, The great DJpatm puckluck has spoken. And I always trust his word, he heard it on Global!!!

I guess I will be an outlaw when shifting gears in my standard transmission vehicle, then, eh?
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Old 04-15-2010, 10:02 AM   #82
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"No reading, writing, drawing or sketching . . . while driving." - CBC

Sketching? Really? Do people actually do this while driving? And here I thought looking out for belligerent drivers wasn't enough . . . Now we have to worry about people engaging in conceptual art at 100 kilometres / hour.
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Old 04-15-2010, 10:08 AM   #83
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Good God, my arms would fall off if I had to keep two hands on the wheel at all times.
Plus, it's so much better to have one hand on the back of her head.
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Old 04-15-2010, 10:27 AM   #84
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Glad they didn't say anything about a dress code for summer babes. Now there's a distraction, not that I want anything done about it.
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Old 04-15-2010, 10:28 AM   #85
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Well, The great DJpatm puckluck has spoken. And I always trust his word, he heard it on Global!!!

I guess I will be an outlaw when shifting gears in my standard transmission vehicle, then, eh?
Yeah, and now I have an excuse to give the wife when I fail to signal too. Wunderbar.
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Old 04-15-2010, 10:52 AM   #86
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Little disappointed that they are allowing Hands Free devices. As others have stated it is the conversation that is the problem not the one hand off the wheel.

Some studies show more impairment then driving over .08.

I believe the big difference between a person in the car and a cell phone is that your brain when on a phone conversation effectively removes itself from the act of driving. You are talking on the phone as your primary activity. When you are conversing with someone in a car your brain is still in the car driving while having the conversation. When on a cell phone your brain almost goes into its own vitual space. I know their is some literture out there on the differences.

You are COMPLETELY correct. Driving with or without handsfree produces the same proportion of collisions. There is no statistical difference between collisions and either driving hands free, or driving hands on.
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Old 04-15-2010, 11:09 AM   #87
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Well, The great DJpatm puckluck has spoken. And I always trust his word, he heard it on Global!!!

I guess I will be an outlaw when shifting gears in my standard transmission vehicle, then, eh?
Does every new user that signs onto CP get labeled as a old user? This is like the 10th time a user has claimed I was a different returning user. I am new to CP and am not a returning user now back on topic.

You guys act like the news is a bad source when in fact it is a great source. I understand the typical response to someone who says they hears something on the news to be " yah because everything that is said on the news is true"

I've been in Calgary all my life and watched Global news since I was a kid and I dont remember a time they gave out false information. Believe it or not the cop can give you a ticket for eating while driving. I'm trying to find a link for the traffic laws in Alberta and ill post it here. It doesn't specifically say no eating but it falls under a law that says you cant be distracted from the road. Of course shifting gears is legal but nice way of taking something way too literal for a quick jab.
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Old 04-15-2010, 11:13 AM   #88
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Old 04-15-2010, 11:15 AM   #89
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Glad they didn't say anything about a dress code for summer babes. Now there's a distraction, not that I want anything done about it.
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Old 04-15-2010, 11:20 AM   #90
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How can you eat with bluetooth?
I generally use a whitetooth when I eat, actually I tend to use 32
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I think we as human beings are doing too much to curtail natural selection. We're doing a massive disservice to our children and our children's children.

We should be doing everything to encourage stupid behavior, nay I say we should be worshipping idiots, that way they will be removed from our gene pool as quickly and efficiently as possible.

Who would you rather have fighting the inevitable alien invasion.

The steely eyed uberman or woman who through a 1000 years of selective breeding and removal of stupidity from the gene pool is like a god to us.

Or the idiot that insists on checking her hair and make up and text message while she's trying to fly a space ship to the alien vehicle with her left blinker light flashing while going too slow in the space lanes who's on the way to plant a virus that we know won't work because the moron was too busy playing pull my finger with his idiot cubical mate to make sure that the code was right.

I ask you, when is enough enough?
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Maybe I'm missing something and someone can explain it to me - but how is talking on the phone different from having a conversation with the passenger in your car? (Obviously the looking at the phone to type in the number, texting, etc. is taking away attention from driving) But specifically - you mention above that if you're talking on the phone and someone says something that causes your attention to go to the conversation instead of driving and thus your driving is affected. Well - how is that different than having the same conversation with a passenger in the car who says something that catches your attention and pulls it away from driving?
When you're talking to someone in the car they can see what you see and can understand and follow the reasons why you may need to make pauses in the conversation. If you momentarily stop talking to make a lane change in heavy traffic the person in the car recognizes this and usually shuts up. If you're on the phone people take silence to mean that the call is dropped or they demand your attention by repeating "Hello" until you address them.
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Believe it or not the cop can give you a ticket for eating while driving. I'm trying to find a link for the traffic laws in Alberta and ill post it here. It doesn't specifically say no eating but it falls under a law that says you cant be distracted from the road.
In SK it is called Driving without due care and attention. It is the catch all that would have covered cel phones, texting, shaving et al if the Police had felt the need to use it. I have had one for doing donuts in a parking lot and another for an accident in which I fell asleep at the wheel. I believe it is a mandatory court appearance, as both of mine were, and so that the fine reflects the degree of attention lacked in the situation. Court dates waste poilce officers time, so they don't want to run around giving these out all day long. Also cel phones were acceptable to the majority, so how do you give someone a ticket when it is common practice. If you were swerving all over the road, a case could be made, but the new law doesn't hinge on your performance behind the wheel.
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Saskatchewan's law just went into effect on January 1. It's good I suppose, but I'm currently on my 3rd "hands-free" device. The first one wouldn't let me call anybody once I had received a call during that trip. The second one just didn't understand commands. This 3rd one seems alright.

But really, I end up having to stop and fix the damn thing when it's not working anyway. I dunno, I know you probably can't get rid of communicating while driving, but it's not like hands-free devices are the perfect solution. I was driving with my step-dad and he was going through an intersection while staring up at his device trying to figure it out and yelling at it.
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Does this mean I can't pick my nose in the car anymore???

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Does this mean I can't smoke in my car?

Or hang my arm on my opened window in the summer?

This two hands on the wheel rule is crazy.
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I'm too lazy to link this, but Paul Hinman (WAP) thinks that the government should leave this alone apparently. Simply bewildering....
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Ok, my view is that something similar to Strathcona county should be implemented, I think with this proposed law they are taking it overboard.

Did anyone catch the CTV news where they were catching all the MLA's driving away from the leg talking on their cells phones, eating, texting and what not?

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So does this mean that if a cop pulls you over for something and they looked it up on their in car laptops while driving you have a case to fight it as they were breaking the law.
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