Jay Leno going back to 11:30... Conan's future unclear

[Prototype]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

It's really no different than when you see a hockey prospect threaten to go to Russia if they don't get called up, and then when they do get called up, they fail to impress.

It actually kinda is different. Prospects don't get a restructured contract to perform on an NHL level. If the team doesn't think they are ready, and the prospect threatens to blolt... there have been more teams that have said "see ya" than to offer up the first line role on the big club. And the main difference is that in hockey, if a kid threatens to bolt to Russia, that gives another kid a chance to shine.

In this situation, there's no other kid. This is basically giving Theo Fleury a top line spot at the expense of giving more ice time to a developing Dustin Boyd.

The whole situation stinks to high heaven, and has provided some of the best late night fodder we've seen in years. Even Letterman's sex scandle wasn't this awesome.

And something tells me, more people are watching Conan now, than Conan and Jay together before all this went down, and I doubt Jay is going to be able to reach the same numbers. Good on Conan for going the route he's going.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by troutman

http://jam.canoe.ca/Television/2010/...56691-qmi.html

Kimmel viciously skewered all things Leno: from his bandleader, lame jokes punctuated by rimshots and sound effects, adoring front-row fans, and even Leno’s signature Headlines.

Kimmel can probably sympathize with O’Brien’s plight.

Last year when it looked like Leno might jump to ABC, speculation was Kimmel would be bumped back an hour to make room for The Tonight Show host.

yes but Kimmel is going on his show tomoro, and as has been said Kimmel is very good friends with Carolla and Carolla is with Leno

That group of people make fun of each other all the time. Especially Carolla and Kimmel. So I don't think it was mean spirited, I don't think there was any malicious intent. I think it was just a funny thing that Kimmel did. Whether Jay took it as malicious would be his problem.

[Prototype]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

He was banned from Conan's show for saying something about angry lesbians while he was on

Is that why Carolla was on Leno the other night? Doing his whole schtick during "Who Cares What They Think" or something like that?

[malcolmk14]

Originally Posted by Prototype

And something tells me, more people are watching Conan now, than Conan and Jay together before all this went down, and I doubt Jay is going to be able to reach the same numbers. Good on Conan for going the route he's going.

No kidding. I am making a point of tuning in every single night to see what Conan is going to do or say. The Jack McBrayer appearance and Ricky Gervais interview last night were excellent.

This whole situation has made for some awesome late-night TV. I just hope Conan continues to stick it to NBC every chance he gets.

[awildermode]

what if all this is some kind of plot to get ratings for NBC's talk shows. yeah, i tune into conan every night now to see what great stuff is coming out of it.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Prototype

Is that why Carolla was on Leno the other night? Doing his whole schtick during "Who Cares What They Think" or something like that?

I think he goes on Leno quite often, once every couple of weeks to do that

[corporatejay]

yes but Kimmel is going on his show tomoro, and as has been said Kimmel is very good friends with Carolla and Carolla is with Leno

Who said Carolla was with Jay? I listen to his podcast everyday and he was asked about it yesterday, pretty middle of the road if you ask me, didn't really offer an opinion. Keep in mind Carolla has a pilot in development with NBC so it's not like he's going to piss off the execs before his pilot gets picked up.

[InstantDeath]

Conan >>>>>> Leno

case closed.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by InstantDeath

Conan >>>>>> Leno

case closed.

Not according to NBC affiliates

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by awildermode

what if all this is some kind of plot to get ratings for NBC's talk shows. yeah, i tune into conan every night now to see what great stuff is coming out of it.

i was thinking that as well. i've started watching Conan again after a few months of ignoring his show, and he's probably the funniest i've ever seen him. the Ricky Gervais interview was absolute gold

[RedMileDJ]

Well, looks like it's a done deal:

Source: http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/14/jay-le...show/#comments

Jay Leno has made a new deal with NBC, which gives him "The Tonight Show" from 11:35 - 12:35 ... sources tell TMZ.

As we first reported, under the contract Jay had been working under, he was guaranteed the 10 PM hour. By moving him to 11:35, NBC was in breach of his contract and needed to negotiate a new deal. That is now done, sources tell TMZ.

So Conan O'Brien is out, and Jay is restored.

Such BS. I honestly hope TMZ's info is wrong...but I suspect it's dead on.

Didn't even give Conan a chance.

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Not according to NBC affiliates

All that the affiliates said was that Law&Order>>>>>>Leno.

They don't really care who is on after their news as long as the lead-in gives them some viewers. Leno didn't.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Who said Carolla was with Jay? I listen to his podcast everyday and he was asked about it yesterday, pretty middle of the road if you ask me, didn't really offer an opinion. Keep in mind Carolla has a pilot in development with NBC so it's not like he's going to piss off the execs before his pilot gets picked up.

I dono who he sides with but him and Jay are very good friends, he talks about it on his podcast quite often

they bond over cars and stuff like taht. Carolla goes on Leno's show quite often as well

[troutman]

NBC President threatens Conan:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_423278.html

NBC Universal boss Jeff Zucker — widely seen as the one to blame for the late night mess NBC finds itself in — has threatened to keep Conan O'Brien off the air for three-and-a-half years if he does not accept the network's offer to host the "Tonight Show" at 12:05.

[Table 5]

From some of the magazine articles I've read about him, Jeff Zucker always seemed like the biggest tool around. If they do this, we just might have to stop watching NBC for 3.5 years.

[troutman]

Jimmy Fallon reacts:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_423548.html

"I owe it to you guys to let you know how I feel about this whole thing," Fallon said. "I'm happy to have a job, [...] but it's kind of weird, because these are two of my heroes and two of my friends."

In a sincere evaluation, Fallon didn't choose "Team Conan" or "Team Jay" and instead praised both hosts for helping him become the host of "Late Night."

"Leno gave me so much advice, and so did Conan," Fallon said. "And if Conan didn't kick ass here for 17 years, I wouldn't be here."

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by troutman

NBC President threatens Conan:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_423278.html

NBC Universal boss Jeff Zucker — widely seen as the one to blame for the late night mess NBC finds itself in — has threatened to keep Conan O'Brien off the air for three-and-a-half years if he does not accept the network's offer to host the "Tonight Show" at 12:05.

If I was Conan, I would take it and then sabotage the show until they had no other choice but to release me.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by troutman

NBC President threatens Conan:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_423278.html

NBC Universal boss Jeff Zucker — widely seen as the one to blame for the late night mess NBC finds itself in — has threatened to keep Conan O'Brien off the air for three-and-a-half years if he does not accept the network's offer to host the "Tonight Show" at 12:05.

Wow... NBC just loves wasting money. Didn't they also have Jimmy Fallon on their payroll for a couple of years before he took over for Conan just to prevent him from accepting another job?

I guess it just depends what Conan's contract actually says. Was the time slot stipulated?

[fredr123]

Originally Posted by troutman

NBC President threatens Conan:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_423278.html

NBC Universal boss Jeff Zucker — widely seen as the one to blame for the late night mess NBC finds itself in — has threatened to keep Conan O'Brien off the air for three-and-a-half years if he does not accept the network's offer to host the "Tonight Show" at 12:05.

If that's true, that would have to be one of the longest holding deals in history, no? Presumably Zucker is saying we will continue to pay you to sit at home so that you can't go on a competing network with your own show.

Back to Carolla, seems kind of similar to how he and his radio station parted ways only with a lot more animosity. Carolla was paid for the balance of 2009 despite being let go in the spring. He used that time and those resources to start up his podcasting empire.

Would Conan still matter if he was iced for 6 months? 3.5 years?

[Shazam]

Conan out, Leno takes over Tonight Show:

http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/14/jay-le...-tonight-show/