Zeitgeist, 9/11, and Other Conspiracies

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Sowa

I just love how people find it's weird that the richest, most influential people come together to talk about how to solve the world's problems. I am glad they do because they are generally the best and brightest people in the world thus their status. If they are secretly trying to control the world, than I am glad it's them and not Alex Jones and his crew of morons.

Good for you Sowa, way to keep an open mind.
They're rich and that automatically means that they want what is best for all of us? How ridiculous...........Bill Gates doesnt give a crap about you.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Good for you Sowa, way to keep an open mind.
They're rich and that automatically means that they want what is best for all of us? How ridiculous...........Bill Gates doesnt give a crap about you.

That's not what I said. I mean i know your kind. You don't respond to Photon's factual post about measurements that already disproved that stupid link about chemtrails you posted. You don't respond to why the assault weapon ban got repealed in the first place. No one here can post articles from real media sources because they are controlled by Billy Bildeberg. If anyone here has a close mind it's you. I have met Alex Jones a few times (if you notice I live in Austin, Tx) and he is hardly the sharpest knife in the drawer. How is it that he can figure it out and the CIA not put a hit on him?

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Sowa

That's not what I said. I mean i know your kind. You don't respond to Photon's factual post about measurements that already disproved that stupid link about chemtrails you posted. You don't respond to why the assault weapon ban got repealed in the first place. No one here can post articles from real media sources because they are controlled by Billy Bildeberg. If anyone here has a close mind it's you. I have met Alex Jones a few times (if you notice I live in Austin, Tx) and he is hardly the sharpest knife in the drawer. How is it that he can figure it out and the CIA not put a hit on him?

Dont pretend that you know me because you dont. I'm not a hard line believer here, but I continue to watch this stuff and time will tell I suppose......

I read Photon's post and his scientific info was great. However, there are many articles about spraying where the government/science officials talk about it, including the one from the UK that I linked. Obviously you didn't look at it.

As for Alex Jones, like I said there are some holes in his information and he is a dramatic guy to say the least, but he reports more interesting, behind the scenes stuff that you dont see on our 6 o'clock news because they are too busy talking about war in the middle east and terrorism. Yawn.

BTW Alex Jones has been interrogated for snooping around the Bilderberg meetings. He is not liked by mainstream media.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

I read Photon's post and his scientific info was great. However, there are many articles about spraying where the government/science officials talk about it, including the one from the UK that I linked. Obviously you didn't look at it.

No I did look at it. The one that said independent scientists had verified that the tests were not harmful. Also, this was from the Guardian thats a pretty mainstream media source don't know if I would believe them.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

BTW Alex Jones has been interrogated for snooping around the Bilderberg meetings. He is not liked by mainstream media.

Interrogated for trespassing, because what he was doing was against the law. And of course he isn't liked by mainstream media, that's like saying Vanilla Ice isn't liked by the rap community because he is a ization of what they do.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Sowa

Interrogated for trespassing, because what he was doing was against the law. And of course he isn't liked by mainstream media, that's like saying Vanilla Ice isn't liked by the rap community because he is a ization of what they do.

Trespassing at a public hotel??

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Trespassing at a public hotel??

If the room has been rented out they have a right to request uninvited guests to leave. If they do not leave they are trespassing.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

If the room has been rented out they have a right to request uninvited guests to leave. If they do not leave they are trespassing.

So if Bilderberg meetings were just "politicians comparing notes" like peter12 says and it's no big deal at all............why would they be so evasive about the location/time of the meetings? Why would they care if any members of the press were around at all? Is it because they may have something to hide?

And it wasn't just Jones who was interrogtaed, it was a bunch of other independant "secrecy" journalists also.

In Obama Deception, the hotel where the meetings took place had a fire alarm go off so they could clear everyone out.......but of course there was no fire, because the next morning all the Bilderberg attendees started showing up to the vacant hotel, and this struck me as odd.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

So if Bilderberg meetings were just "politicians comparing notes" like peter12 says and it's no big deal at all............why would they be so evasive about the location/time of the meetings? Why would they care if any members of the press were around at all? Is it because they may have something to hide?

And it wasn't just Jones who was interrogtaed, it was a bunch of other independant "secrecy" journalists also.

In Obama Deception, the hotel where the meetings took place had a fire alarm go off so they could clear everyone out.......but of course there was no fire, because the next morning all the Bilderberg attendees started showing up to the vacant hotel, and this struck me as odd.

Because sometimes people want to be able to speak their mind without worrying whether their words will be recorded and quoted out of context by journalists who are more interested in creating buzz than reporting the news.

[Azure]

Mikey the problem with letting yourself even watch a 'bit' of this stuff is you start off just believing certain small things. As time goes by, you get more and more involved, and pretty soon you're so much into these 'theories' that it starts dictating how you act and the decisions you make.

Word leaders I'm sure meet all the time to discuss various things. Believing that this 'bilderberg' group is so special puts you into a position where history mocks you. For years, and I mean years, people have been 'prophesying' about a world government, and meetings like this was their proof.

Yet, year after year after year, they were proven wrong.

Like I said before, all of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again. People have been jumping on the conspiracy bandwagon for years. Why should we treat them any different now?

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

I don't remember you going off about this conspiracy stuff before. Have you held these beliefs for long? I kinda get the impression that you came across "infowars" and watched that movie and believed every single word of it.

I haven't gone off about this stuff before, because I just saw Zeitgeist the other day, and Zeitgeist was not created by Alex Jones, but the film Obama Deception was. I just wanted to bring some issues up that alot of people may have never heard about to create some interesting discussion.

I have never voted and I was always curious as to why our politicians here in Canada cant make real, drastic change. It seemed to me that no matter if the Conservatives or Liberals were in, not much would be different and now I believe it is because the people we elect aren't the ones making the decisions.

BTW I have been reading Alex Jones news for a couple months.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Azure

Mikey the problem with letting yourself even watch a 'bit' of this stuff is you start off just believing certain small things. As time goes by, you get more and more involved, and pretty soon you're so much into these 'theories' that it starts dictating how you act and the decisions you make.

Word leaders I'm sure meet all the time to discuss various things. Believing that this 'bilderberg' group is so special puts you into a position where history mocks you. For years, and I mean years, people have been 'prophesying' about a world government, and meetings like this was their proof.

Yet, year after year after year, they were proven wrong.

Like I said before, all of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again. People have been jumping on the conspiracy bandwagon for years. Why should we treat them any different now?

Yeah and it takes years and years to carefully put a world government together, and to sell it to the people.
There are some measures being taken to "internationalize" things, like the European Union, the North American Union, the IMF(International Monetary Fund), the World Health Organization, etc.

Hell...........David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger and others openly talk about the possibility of a world goverment.

I guess some of you guys may percieve me as a hardcore follower of this stuff, but really I just find it interesting material to read when I'm at work.......haha.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Zeitgeist had so much obviously wrong in the first five minutes of it that I couldn't continue. This despite a recommendation from a friend. I found it laughable. I'm surprised that anyone who claims to think critically could recommend this movie.

People love their conspiracies. Dan Brown got rich because of it.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Zeitgeist had so much obviously wrong in the first five minutes of it that I couldn't continue. This despite a recommendation from a friend. I found it laughable. I'm surprised that anyone who claims to think critically could recommend this movie.

People love their conspiracies. Dan Brown got rich because of it.

Can you be specific a bit here? I am curious because I don't understand the origins of religion at all. Maybe you can enlighten me.

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Yeah and it takes years and years to carefully put a world government together, and to sell it to the people.
There are some measures being taken to "internationalize" things, like the European Union, the North American Union, the IMF(International Monetary Fund), the World Health Organization, etc.

Hell...........David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger and others openly talk about the possibility of a world goverment.

I guess some of you guys may percieve me as a hardcore follower of this stuff, but really I just find it interesting material to read when I'm at work.......haha.

Even Jack Van Impe....all of this signals the return of christ. Buy the DVD in which he describes how all of these secret organizations were formed and professed in the bible.

[Tower]

The 3 kings being stars is not true (Astrology). You could not see the stars in that position at that time of the year.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by tkflames

Even Jack Van Impe....all of this signals the return of christ. Buy the DVD in which he describes how all of these secret organizations were formed and professed in the bible.

Seriously!?

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by peter12

Seriously!?

I am thinking he was being sarcastic. Well I am hoping.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Yeah and it takes years and years to carefully put a world government together, and to sell it to the people.
There are some measures being taken to "internationalize" things, like the European Union, the North American Union, the IMF(International Monetary Fund), the World Health Organization, etc.

Hell...........David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger and others openly talk about the possibility of a world goverment.

I guess some of you guys may percieve me as a hardcore follower of this stuff, but really I just find it interesting material to read when I'm at work.......haha.

I realize that. But read enough of it, and you start believing it, and like I said earlier, it starts dictating the decisions you make in your life.

I've seen this all happen before with someone else. The worst part is them not realizing what they're doing.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by tkflames

Even Jack Van Impe....all of this signals the return of christ. Buy the DVD in which he describes how all of these secret organizations were formed and professed in the bible.

Originally Posted by peter12

Seriously!?

Originally Posted by Sowa

I am thinking he was being sarcastic. Well I am hoping.

Sarcastic or not, there are people saying this.

Its exactly why organized religion turns me off.

People have been basically 'lying' about the return of Christ for decades. Why should anyone believe that crap now?