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Old 01-02-2024, 04:58 PM   #15121
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Yep, if that's on the table for Lindy you pull the trigger before the end of the phone call.

Kind of interesting if you piece together rumors.

Lindy for Byram, Byram take Hanifins slot, Hanifin for McLeod ++ McLeod takes Lindholms statistical spot. (I.e similar stats minus some assists). We don't get worse and get some extra bits out of it.
...we don't get better though, and that has to be part of it.

McLeod should 100% not be a target, unless that ++ is a 1st + 2nd.
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...we don't get better though, and that has to be part of it.

McLeod should 100% not be a target, unless that ++ is a 1st + 2nd.
Exactly!
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...we don't get better though, and that has to be part of it.

McLeod should 100% not be a target, unless that ++ is a 1st + 2nd.
I'm just going off rumors dude. What if it's McLeod and Holtz?

Anyways, we don't get better, we do get younger and more cost control. And cheaper. Seems very Flamesy to me.
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I'm just going off rumors dude. What if it's McLeod and Holtz?

Anyways, we don't get better, we do get younger and more cost control. And cheaper. Seems very Flamesy to me.
Yeah, this is what I'm hoping we don't do.

Yeah, didn't mean to come off as criticizing your take or anything - just moreso that McLeod just shouldn't be the type of target in my eyes.
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This should be done already if this is on the table.
Too bad this guy is just a rando
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Too bad this guy is just a rando
Chris Johnson is a random?
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Yeah, this is what I'm hoping we don't do.

Yeah, didn't mean to come off as criticizing your take or anything - just moreso that McLeod just shouldn't be the type of target in my eyes.
I get Flamed for it but I'm okay with McLeod. The extra picks coming over fall in line with a build through the draft. Or even a home run deal that gets Holtz+McLeod is great.

End of the day, McLeod is a lateral acquisition to Lindholm (current seasons stats) and they can land extra picks or another player.

If we want a good draft position to land a lottery win or even a Cayden Lindstrom, do we want to be better?
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I get Flamed for it but I'm okay with McLeod. The extra pucks coming over fall in line with a build through the draft. Or even a home run deal that gets Holtz+McLeod is great.

End of the day, McLeod is a lateral acquisition to Lindholm (current seasons stats) and they can land extra picks or another player.

If we want a good draft position to land a lottery win or even a Cayden Lindstrom, do we want to be better?
Oh 100%.

The best asset the Flames will be adding in these trades in all likelihood is improving the value of the Flames own 1st round pick.
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Chris Johnson is a random?
Oh, thought the fan was speculating on price but I feel like Lindholm would be gone if Byram and a 1st was in the table
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Oh, thought the fan was speculating on price but I feel like Lindholm would be gone if Byram and a 1st was in the table

Not saying this will be the deal, but NHL trades take weeks sometimes, especially with leveraging, talking about retention and extensions. I doubt it is as easy as done after a phone call.

Colorado might be weighting in options, looking at Landy situation and might be like "yeah a package of Byram and 1st might be doable"
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...we don't get better though, and that has to be part of it.

McLeod should 100% not be a target, unless that ++ is a 1st + 2nd.
Who says we have to get better?

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With every win Craig and the crew delve further into that meddling mediocrity and the fear of actually making a big trade as it seems they think we can compete long term and are scared to move someone of “impact”

Such a crappy situation
They’re one game below .500 and 8th-of-32.

Nobody in that front office thinks this is anything but a tear down, and Edwards is far more apt to listen when Conroy and Iggy come to him and tell him what’s what.
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This didn’t need two posts
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This should be done already if this is on the table.

What Johnston wrote:

"Crucially, the Avs own the kind of assets that will be coveted by Calgary when it moves Lindholm, including a 2024 first-round pick and 22-year-old defenseman Bowen Byram, who may be expendable if the right deal comes along."


To me, it reads like these are things that they have that *could* be involved, not him writing out a package that's available.
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So the Avs miss Kadri and they trade us for Lindy?

Kadri brings a whole different compete level, especially when the games matter.

Is there any way to make that cap space work?
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So the Avs miss Kadri and they trade us for Lindy?

Kadri brings a whole different compete level, especially when the games matter.

Is there any way to make that cap space work?
Make him a 4-5 million dollar player.

I’m not a fan of Kadri’s game. It’s selfish and lazy at times. I’ll never forgive him for the shuffleboard hockey he played at the end of last season. He has rebounded into expectations this year tho.

I just don’t see Colorado wanting the term of the deal but you know wink wink he blows a hip anything can happen in this league with LTIR.
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Even if it's Byram alone for Lindholm, I'd take that trade. Injury risk and all. It lubricates the Hanifin trade.
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Edwards is far more apt to listen when Conroy and Iggy come to him and tell him what’s what.
Why?

What evidence to we have to say that?
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Byram would be a dream..

If stays healthy he could be an absolute beauty.
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I wonder if Byram would only be on the table if it was Lindholm+Tanev...could see that too.

Lindholm
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For

Bryam
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Another piece

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Why?

What evidence to we have to say that?
Stopping all extension conversations, for one.

Seeming to have had honest conversations with Markstrom about moving on.

Trading Zadorov for nothing but picks.

Rumours abounding about Byram as a possible return for Lindholm.

This group is self-evidently not very good, by the standards of the modern NHL.

The new building is coming - there’s no need to spend $85M a year on this team right now.
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