2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I can understand that we will need players going forward, but this would be terrible?

6 more years at 6.5 per year will take him to his age 37 season. That would be the opposite of what we want to do.

Yeah if it was 4 more years at that ticket and the Blues enticed Calgary to take the cap hit then maybe.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by traptor

Its not hindsight if you were thinking it before the outcome unfolded...

And many, including the media talking heads, were predicting a drop from Hubrrdeau. Many thought it was a wildcard team with no young elite talent. Manu though going alll in on hubrdeau, kadri and weegar before they had played a game here was extremely risky and could blow up in our faces.

These opinions were all had before the current outcomes had unfolded.
Just because so many if you were wrong doesn't mean this outcome was unpredictable and this is just hindsight being 20/20.

Ohhhhh.

So let me get this straight. Huberdeau put up 115 points and "many" people were predicting a drop in points?

lol no kidding. Many people really going out on a limb with that prediction. Of course there would be a drop from an massive number like that.

Show me one person predicting he'd drop to 50 points though.

[Toonage]

I used to think David Pagnotta / 4th Period were somewhat reliable, but as of late not so much. Not sure he's broken anything of note recently (as in the past few years).

[PuckSlap]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Is Vladar that much of an upgrade over Martin Jones?

Leafs ownership won't care. It's just whatever appeases the fanbase for a few weeks. Then they just add more forwards at the deadline. They're like the Oilers, but with more money and more ignorance.. Maybe not the last one

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[Bonded]

Originally Posted by traptor

Its not hindsight if you were thinking it before the outcome unfolded...

And many, including the media talking heads, were predicting a drop from Hubrrdeau. Many thought it was a wildcard team with no young elite talent. Manu though going alll in on hubrdeau, kadri and weegar before they had played a game here was extremely risky and could blow up in our faces.

These opinions were all had before the current outcomes had unfolded.
Just because so many if you were wrong doesn't mean this outcome was unpredictable and this is just hindsight being 20/20.

Media predicting a drop off from a 115 point season is a pretty low bar to trot out as a got yah.
For the most part the media was on the Flames hype train though and it was the most hyped they have been in a long time.

https://www.nhl.com/news/stanley-cup...ason-336050052
Contrarian opinions always exist but the prevalent opinion was that the Flames would be fighting for the division/conference and not a wildcard team. If 'many' people were saying the Flames were a wild card team even more were saying they were not.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

Parayko is an Alberta kid, grew up in St. Albert. My guess is he would waive to come to Calgary.

I would much rather he waive to go to Edmonton.

[Tkachukwagon]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I can understand that we will need players going forward, but this would be terrible?

6 more years at 6.5 per year will take him to his age 37 season. That would be the opposite of what we want to do.

I think it would be a disaster if the Flames traded for Parayko, I just stated he is an Alberta kid and the NTC in his contract wouldn't necessarily be used to save the Flames from themselves.

[SnipeShow]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

The rebuild is upon them, whether they would risk it or not.

I appreciate the LOTR line usage here.

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[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I'm so damn tired of this crap.

Be negative ... it's your thing.

Make your case, but can we all stop with the narrative that those that disagree with you are flawed.

I have been called worse on here boss

I didn’t target anyone. Just a general statement

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

I think it would be a disaster if the Flames traded for Parayko, I just stated he is an Alberta kid and the NTC in his contract wouldn't necessarily be used to save the Flames from themselves.

It would. Like Bingo said if it was a shorter deal with something attached it might be worth it, but just to take him on with that nasty deal no thank you.

At times it feels like this team can't keep themselves from wasting cap space on anyone.

Noah didn't take the deal lets just find a player to trade for who is much worse and fill that gap.

Sitting out sometimes is the best option.

Its the 4th Period and Pagnotta who are pretty bad so hopefully its just a bad take, but a scary thought.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

I have been called worse on here boss

I didn’t target anyone. Just a general statement

Not calling you out for name calling.

For disparaging the other side of an argument.

It's weak as hell.

[dammage79]

Parayko has been linked to CGY before. Even before the Tkachuk trade. So it's not impossible. But man, 6.5m cap hit until 2029/30 and his 36th birthday? That's a lot of meat on the bone.

[Vinny01]

https://www.thefourthperiod.com/jan-...he-trade-lines

More 4th period stuff. Mentions the Flames have had more chats around their blueline. The Devils are a team in contact. Also mentions Weegar was in the rumors last year and teams are still interested but he has a full no trade. I would be shocked if they entertained moving Weegar right now

[ComixZone]

Yeah, the only way I see Weegar moved is if there's a scorched Earth rebuild...and I don't think any of us believe that's what they'll end up doing (...whether it's warranted or not)

[Erick Estrada]

Organizational depth will be severely tested once Tanev and Hanafin are moved. The team has to ice some NHL caliber defensemen so I don't see Weegar being moved as his contract is decent and he wants to be here.

[Monahammer]

I like weegar a lot, but if someone wants to pay a ransom for him and he wants to waive, bye!

[Roof-Daddy]

Poirier needs to come back and get some AHL games in so he can hopefully be ready for some NHL games after they move Hanifin and Tanev

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Parayko has been linked to CGY before. Even before the Tkachuk trade. So it's not impossible. But man, 6.5m cap hit until 2029/30 and his 36th birthday? That's a lot of meat on the bone.

6'6" right hand shot D-man - Blues fly-under-the-radar "secret" weapon - what can possibly go wrong besides the $6.5M cap hit for another 6 years and him being Butler soft? LOL

Why the Blues should trade Colton Parayko (and also why it’s unlikely)

He could possibly be a replacement for Hanifin with a right shot that replaces Tanev.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I like weegar a lot, but if someone wants to pay a ransom for him and he wants to waive, bye!

I'd say no one not on an ELC is untouchable at this point. I also wouldn't be trying to trade Weegar, but if someone was going to overpay by a lot, then fine. He'll be an old man buy the time this team has a chance to seriously contend.

[dammage79]

I don't mind a veteran Defense corps backing up a wolf/vladar tandem plus a young forward group. Defensemen take longer to develop unless you get a Makar type right out of the box

Weegar popping up in rumors only makes sense because other teams are inquiring, I'd be surprised if the Flames are entertaining anything involving weegar unless it's a grand slam homerun trade .