2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[dustygoon]

Hey. At least it’s a plan with thinking beyond just one year.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I’m not sure how many teams will have the cap space at that stage of the season and the desire to take on what will likely be at that time rentals.

Depends. I’ve voiced my opinion before that if lindholm or hanifin get traded it won’t be a complete futures deal. IMO it’s going to be more of a hockey trade .

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Depends. I’ve voiced my opinion before that if lindholm or hanifin get traded it won’t be a complete futures deal. IMO it’s going to be more of a hockey trade .

I think if Lindholm, Backs and Noah all want out then a rebuild will be "forced". If two of the three stay then we are going to see a hockey trade.

[Heavy Jack]

Hanifin for Marchenko and Peeke is definitely intriguing, I think Huska could do a great job with Peeke, right handed dman with size who was rushed a bit in Columbust. Give him some sheltered minutes to round out his game working with a guy like Huska who has a good track record with young D and you could see another level unlocked in Peeke.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Hanifin for Marchenko and Peeke is definitely intriguing, I think Huska could do a great job with Peeke, right handed dman with size who was rushed a bit in Columbust. Give him some sheltered minutes to round out his game working with a guy like Huska who has a good track record with young D and you could see another level unlocked in Peeke.

I don't think Colombus has any appetite of moving either Johnson or Marchenko for 1 year of Hanifin. Especially since they just got Provorov.

[Royle9]

No trade is going to be for 1 year, any early trade prior to the deadline is going to come with an extension, so don’t worry about that.

Both the player and teams interested want commitment if it happens before deadline day.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Royle9

No trade is going to be for 1 year, any early trade prior to the deadline is going to come with an extension, so don’t worry about that.

Both the player and teams interested want commitment if it happens before deadline day.

Okay what makes you think that Hanifin wants to sign an extension in Colombus? If he wanted to sign there anyways, then why wouldn't they just wait the year. It's not like Colombus is competing for a cup this year.

Also, they already have Werenski, and Provorov taking the two LD spots in their top 4.

Most of the UFAs this year actually want to test the market, because of the large salary bump. I'm pretty sure that most agents would be encouraging their players to wait, unless they can cash in on an 8 year contract like Lindholm.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

I've been told the Flames have zero appetite to wait until the trade deadline to trade Hanifin, as well as Lindholm if he doesn't sign. There is an internal deadline to take the best deal available before the quarter season mark on those two players. The others will likely be deadline deals if it comes to that. Seems like outside of the question mark around Lindholm, and Hanifin's decision, there is confidence in ability to re-sign other UFAs pending season progression.

I'm good with that, but I think the Flames need to make the whatever "internal deadline" they want to set, line up with when they expect they can get the best return, or what they need to do to ensure they maximise return.

The hard part with trading any of those players, at the deadline, would be having the will to still do it if the Flames are in a playoff spot but they aren't signed. I feel like though Conroy and crew need to be willing to do that if they believe that's when they can get the best return if they remain un-signed. I get the "emotional" up and down that would cause for the fans, and players, but this is a unique situation, and you need to do what you must if a deadline trade is likely to get the best return.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

Okay what makes you think that Hanifin wants to sign an extension in Colombus? If he wanted to sign there anyways, then why wouldn't they just wait the year. It's not like Colombus is competing for a cup this year.

Also, they already have Werenski, and Provorov taking the two LD spots in their top 4.

Most of the UFAs this year actually want to test the market, because of the large salary bump. I'm pretty sure that most agents would be encouraging their players to wait, unless they can cash in on an 8 year contract like Lindholm.

I never said Columbus, I said he’s looking for a long term move not short term.
Why would Columbus entice him? We’ll he’s good friends with Johnny for 1, and just like I could see him sign in Florida too as Matthew is there.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Royle9

No trade is going to be for 1 year, any early trade prior to the deadline is going to come with an extension, so don’t worry about that.

Both the player and teams interested want commitment if it happens before deadline day.

Once a player gets close to UFA, they tend to wait to sign, unless they get traded to the exact team they want.

Once the season starts, the odds favour a rental trade.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I never said Columbus, I said he’s looking for a long term move not short term.
Why would Columbus entice him? We’ll he’s good friends with Johnny for 1, and just like I could see him sign in Florida too as Matthew is there.

I thought you continued on my response to Heavy Jack, where I mentioned the 1 year. That's why I continued mentioning CBJ.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Hanifin for Marchenko and Peeke is definitely intriguing, I think Huska could do a great job with Peeke, right handed dman with size who was rushed a bit in Columbust. Give him some sheltered minutes to round out his game working with a guy like Huska who has a good track record with young D and you could see another level unlocked in Peeke.

I would take this deal too.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Hanifin for Marchenko and Peeke is definitely intriguing, I think Huska could do a great job with Peeke, right handed dman with size who was rushed a bit in Columbust. Give him some sheltered minutes to round out his game working with a guy like Huska who has a good track record with young D and you could see another level unlocked in Peeke.

Peeke is turning 26 this year, don’t think he is a young dman. That would be a pretty bad trade, a 5/6 dman and a 23 year old middling forward.

The Flames equivalent would be giving up Rucizka and Stecher (if we still had him) for Hanifin.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Peeke is turning 26 this year, don’t think he is a young dman. That would be a pretty bad trade, a 5/6 dman and a 23 year old middling forward.

The Flames equivalent would be giving up Rucizka and Stecher (if we still had him) for Hanifin.

You are really underrating Marchenko.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You are really underrating Marchenko.

Marchenko and Ruzika are not in the same stratosphere as far as I’ve seen.

One guy looks like he’s dangerous every time he’s on the ice the other looks like he’s a danger to the popcorn supply in the press box.

[dammage79]

Marchenko IMO is an excellent prize in return for Hanifin. That shapes the winger group soundly.

LW:
Huberdeau
Mangiapane
Pelletier
Dube

C:
LINDHOLM
Kadri
Backlund
Roz

RW:
Marchenko
Coronato
Sharangovich
Dueher

Now cmon. That's tight.

[Heavy Jack]

Don’t forget about Coleman!

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Marchenko and Ruzika are not in the same stratosphere as far as I’ve seen.

One guy looks like he’s dangerous every time he’s on the ice the other looks like he’s a danger to the popcorn supply in the press box.

Now, as far as consistency goes, absolutely , no argument.

But I can't deny that for that month and a half that Ruzicka actually played up to his potential last year, I don't know if the Flames had a better Player. If Roz could do what he did night in and night out over an 82 game pace. We'd have another top 6 center.


But yes Marchenko is a beast, nightly.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Don’t forget about Coleman!

Holy smokes, Coleman! Yeah, that'd do just fine.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Columbus isn’t getting Hanifin, they’re already loaded on D