2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Niemo

I am not high on Mercer. He is decent. No better or worse than Holtz.

The majority of GM’s think otherwise.

[Niemo]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Takes two to make a trade.

Do you want Conroy to accept a deal for the sake of getting one done this weekend?

You can assume that Conroy has not seen a deal he likes yet.

Agreed that most likely no one has met the process set yet. The rumoured devils offer was good and so close. Hammer it out! I hope we’re not holding out for a 3rd for example. We may never know though.

[FusionX]

Originally Posted by Parallex

No I think a little more is justified. My thought is that the Flames want 2nd + asset for Tanev and the Markstrom deal was Mercer + 1st without factoring in retention and the hitch was the valuation on the retention. So you add tanev to the deal get the 2nd and the + asset is the difference between the Flames and devils valuation of the retention. I don't think we need to retain on Tanev.

Makes sense to me.

I agree that mine was probably optimistic but also agree I don't think it's wildly optimistic. Suppose it depends what NJ values Mercer as mainly, and what we value retention as.

Let's suppose "universally" Markstrom is worth a 1st + something. We feel that something is Mercer and NJ feels that's too much. Then looking at retention, let's say 50% for 2.5 years(!) is worth a 1st + 3rd. We think that's Casey + 3rd. Drop the 3rd, add that value into Mercer and I don't think that's unreasonable. The best player currently in the deal would be Markstrom.

Then Tanev, is it just a conditional 1st? Maybe, but it seems the prevailing thought is a 2nd + prospect/player, and Connie is holding out for a conditional 1st. In the case I proposed, that condition is pretty unlikely (NJ winning the cup), and thus it's realistically just a 2nd. Perhaps Holtz is a bit rich for the extra in the deal, but Tanev isn't Markstrom, he's a pending UFA and the market is much higher for him I'd wager. The retention on Tanev was to balance the Holtz equation a bit (also, I'm not sure what NJ's capspace is looking like).

Ultimately, I think it'd be an amazing return and likely across the league it may seem like a steal for us, until it solidifies a decent NJ team and sets them up for a run. Outside of the picks and Casey, NJ is losing a current 2nd/3rd line center, a 4th line winger. We give up a #1 goalie + a number 3/4 steady defenseman, both of whom would be the best player in the deal currently, plus over 10million in real money, + 3m in cap for 2 years.

Honestly, I don't think it's ridiculous?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Niemo

I am not high on Mercer. He is decent. No better or worse than Holtz.

Even if he is no better than Holtz (I think he is, but the difference probably isn't huge), the big issue for the Flames is that we are loaded on wing and have zero Cs under 30.

Holtz doesn't move the needle much for our lineup, Mercer does.

[Roof-Daddy]

Another day, no trades.....

[dissentowner]

Just read that in the last 32 thoughts Friedman indicated Hanifin would extend for TB, Florida, Boston, or New Jersey. I read that from a tweet, didn't listen to it. I think the Devils would be smart to try and get both Markstrom and Hanifin, they need both.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Just read that in the last 32 thoughts Friedman indicated Hanifin would extend for TB, Florida, Boston, or New Jersey. I read that from a tweet, didn't listen to it. I think the Devils would be smart to try and get both Markstrom and Hanifin, they need both.

Agreed, they’re both fantastic fits time-wise too.

Hanifin, Hamilton, L. Hughes, Nemec, J. Hughes, Hischier, and Markstrom is a Stanley Cup team. That core is unreal.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Agreed, they’re both fantastic fits time-wise too.

Hanifin, Hamilton, L. Hughes, Nemec, J. Hughes, Hischier, and Markstrom is a Stanley Cup team. That core is unreal.

Hischier was really, really good today.

As was Timo, still not playing up to his contract, but made it a bit less awful.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Hischier was really, really good today.

As was Timo, still not playing up to his contract, but made it a bit less awful.

[Enoch Root]

I can not figure out what I am doing wrong with gifs

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I can not figure out what I am doing wrong with gifs

You need the url to the specific gif.

Use GIPHY.com to search for gifs.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

You need the img url.

Use GIPHY.com to search for gifs.

I used the img url

and it was from giphy.com

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I can not figure out what I am doing wrong with gifs

Sec214 wants his schtick back!! Lol

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Not sure which gif you’re trying to quote from that page but right click (or hold) the image you want, click open image, then you should see only the image you’re trying to share. Take that URL and paste it in the image pop up on CP.

[JurassicTunga12]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Just read that in the last 32 thoughts Friedman indicated Hanifin would extend for TB, Florida, Boston, or New Jersey. I read that from a tweet, didn't listen to it. I think the Devils would be smart to try and get both Markstrom and Hanifin, they need both.

Maybe that's why it's taking so long.

Markstrom(retain), Hanifin(retain, extension), Rooney for Mercer, Holtz, Casey, Vanacek, 1st ?

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

That’s what we thought last summer. Then all the buyouts happened. All it takes for some more sellers to jump in and tank the market. Then we are in a weak position. Get the work done in advance to minimize risk.

What do summer buyouts have to do with the trade deadline?

More sellers to tank the market? Are there better UFA players than Hanifin and Tanev available from any team in the D trade market this year? Doesn’t matter which teams fall into sellers, those two are still going to be the most desired.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

Not sure which gif you’re trying to quote from that page but right click (or hold) the image you want, click open image, then you should see only the image you’re trying to share. Take that URL and paste it in the image pop up on CP.

I am pretty sure that is exactly what I did. And this gif caught my attention too, so thanks for posting!

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Even if he is no better than Holtz (I think he is, but the difference probably isn't huge), the big issue for the Flames is that we are loaded on wing and have zero Cs under 30.

Holtz doesn't move the needle much for our lineup, Mercer does.

If you have a Holtz, suddenly you can move mangiapane and duehr and have a natural successor to kuzmenko.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Hischier was really, really good today.

As was Timo, still not playing up to his contract, but made it a bit less awful.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I am pretty sure that is exactly what I did. And this gif caught my attention too, so thanks for posting!

When you’re posting a gif you want to see the URL end in .gif

If you check your post it doesn’t end in gif and won’t display the image correctly