2016/2017 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[the_only_turek_fan]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Just caught a Craig Button interview on AM770 while I was driving. Had a few comments I can remember:

- Drouin brings scoring and excitement to Montreal, is young so might influence Price re-signing. Also lets them dangle other assets.
- Sergachyev is a top pair defenseman, and trading Drouin also frees up cap space for Johnson/Palat
- Housley is really inexperienced, Sabres have to stick by him through growing pains
- some expansion stuff, nothing too interesting.
- Draft is wide open, even Makar could go first. Flames could very well get a guy ranked 4th on their list down at 16. Maybe not an out-and-out star player but a great "Backlund type" rock in their system.
- Stone "settled down" our defense
- Calgary should be on the up in the west if they figure out their goaltending
- thinks Calgary should add a speedy, skilled player on line with Monahan/Gaudreau instead of Ferland (was strange, since Ferland is speedy and skilled. I attribute it to East bias.)

Craig Button lives in Calgary.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Ferland may have solid north-south speed but isn't "quick" overall.

[shotinthebacklund]

Think a haglin type guy. Someone to stretch ice on rush and open room for johnny and dman to bring up on the rush

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Yes there is still very little organizational depth, nor do we have an abundance of draft picks. To become a contender, Flames can't afford many misses.

Next year is a big year.

The 2013 draft is going to come to a head, as our 1st round draft picks from that year combined with the other 1st rounders since acquired need to have big seasons.

Monahan was a hit, as 6th overall should be.

Poirier will hopefully be refreshed and come back hard.
Klimchuk had a huge growth year, but ended the season with a concussion.
Shinkaruk fell in the first half, but rebounded in the 2nd half.
Lazar had a rough year, but the org believes in him.

Those guys taking big steps forward really takes the organizational depth to whole new level. Even if a couple of them do it'll be huge.

It's nice when your team hits on a mid-late round gem, like Johnny or Brodie.

The key though is not blowing your 1st and 2nd round picks.

Since the rebuild started the Flames have picked 11 times in the first two rounds (4 drafts).

2013 - Monahan, Poirier, Klimchuk (since added Shink + Lazar)
2014 - Bennett, McDonald, Smith (since added Pollock)
2015 - Andersson, Kylington
2016 - Tkachuk, Dube, Parsons

That's where the meat has to come from.

So with the added guys, that's 14 players from the 1st two rounds of the last 4 drafts. Only 4 of them so far look like they've made it (Monahan, Bennett, Lazar, Tkachuk) and two of those still haven't taken off fully (Bennett, Lazar)

Like I said, next year is huge for the 2013's, and hopefully over the next couple of seasons 3 or 4 more of those guys establish themselves as solid NHLers who can contribute to a winning team. And if anyone else steps up from later rounds, that'll help too.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

Think a haglin type guy. Someone to stretch ice on rush and open room for johnny and dman to bring up on the rush

I just think a guy like that would help the Bennett line more.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Just caught a Craig Button interview on AM770 while I was driving. Had a few comments I can remember:

- Drouin brings scoring and excitement to Montreal, is young so might influence Price re-signing. Also lets them dangle other assets.
- Sergachyev is a top pair defenseman, and trading Drouin also frees up cap space for Johnson/Palat
- Housley is really inexperienced, Sabres have to stick by him through growing pains
- some expansion stuff, nothing too interesting.
- Draft is wide open, even Makar could go first. Flames could very well get a guy ranked 4th on their list down at 16. Maybe not an out-and-out star player but a great "Backlund type" rock in their system.
- Stone "settled down" our defense
- Calgary should be on the up in the west if they figure out their goaltending
- thinks Calgary should add a speedy, skilled player on line with Monahan/Gaudreau instead of "weighty" Ferland (was strange, since Ferland is speedy and skilled. I attribute it to East bias. But I generally agree we need to get faster as a team.)

Come on down Jordan Weal.

Speedy, young, skilled, UFA (probably $1-1.5 million?), is from Western Canada, and as a bonus he's got a right shot.

Apparently he finished the season looking really good.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

- Draft is wide open, even Makar could go first. Flames could very well get a guy ranked 4th on their list down at 16. Maybe not an out-and-out star player but a great "Backlund type" rock in their system.

So Lias Andersson is rated 4th in their rankings then.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

Do the Oilers not have to protect McJesus?

I'd love to see McPhee announce "From the Edmonton Oilers, the Vegas Golden Knights are proud to select...Connor McDavid...j/k..." just to see everyone's heads explode.

[atb]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
McKenzie: "I'll be really surprised if Galchenyuk is not traded here in the next little while." #Habs 1050

Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
McKenzie: Brodin in Minnesota is a guy that is eminently available right now. I believe Minnesota is likely to trade him before the freeze.

Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
McKenzie: "Montreal is by no means the only team in on Jonas Brodin." #mnwild #Habs

Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
McKenzie: "I think it's crazy right now. I think there's all sorts of talk going on."

Crazy that the Wild would be looking to trade Brodin. A 23 year old top pairing D man, hard to imagine they wouldn't be looking for a way to keep him over other players.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

Calgary seemingly has zero trade able assets with any value. Everyone good we can't do without, everyone expendable is garbage and holds no value for a galchenyuk

Right.. But you're thinking strictly of the roster.

The Flames have plenty of prospects and picks on the table with value to offer. It all depends on whether they like who they can pick up in this draft, or if they want to go the Dougie Hamilton route like in 2015 and make a splash.

I'd be inclined to believe that Jankowski, one of the 2013 first rounders, the three promising goalies in stockton, Hickey, Fox, Andersson, Kylington, and Gaudreau-lite Philips are the sorts of prospects that other teams would find attractive. If the Flames want to make a trade, that is.

[Love]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

With Phillips progressing well and being small and Johnny solidified as a top line NHL'er, I would put Mangiapane in the expendable camp.

That said:

To Flames - Galchenyuk and conditional 4th

To Habs - Calgary 2017 1st, Andrew Mangiapane and one of Kulak, Wotherspoon, Culkin and rights to Rafikov (4th conditional of Russian signing with the Habs)

I think the Flames still have some assets with good value such as guys like Mangiapane.

I would trade Phillips way before I considered trading Mangiapane.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by atb

Crazy that the Wild would be looking to trade Brodin. A 23 year old top pairing D man, hard to imagine they wouldn't be looking for a way to keep him over other players.

It's either him, Dumba, or Spurgeon (Suter has NMC). Dumba's a year younger, and Spurgeon is still a couple years away from 30.

Of those three, Brodin was third in every statistical category. He was a close third, but still third.

[sureLoss]

Friedman says that there were teams hoping Vegas would flip MAF, but it now sounds like Vegas will keep him and he will stay in Vegas

[dammage79]

I'm telling ya, Steve Mason will be the next Flames #1 goaltender.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I'm telling ya, Steve Mason will be the next Flames #1 goaltender.

Wouldn't surprise me if he's plan A right now, with Elliott as plan B should Mason choose to re-sign with Philly or go somewhere else.

He wants to be the undisputed starter, and not 1 other team in the league can offer him that right now, so if Treliving offers you'd figure he takes it and runs as long as the offer is a minimum of 3 years x $4 million.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I'm telling ya, Steve Mason will be the next Flames #1 goaltender.

He's #2 on my wish list.

1. Philipp Grubauer
2. Steve Mason

Contract length would be a concern going the UFA route, but I guess we'll find out soon enough!

[Browndog71]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I'm telling ya, Steve Mason will be the next Flames #1 goaltender.

On the bright side, if Mason ends up being our guy, he usually has some cool masks.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

He's #2 on my wish list.

1. Philipp Grubauer
2. Steve Mason

Contract length would be a concern going the UFA route, but I guess we'll find out soon enough!

I think Grubauer will end up being Vegas other goalie they keep, with the plan being he takes over for MAF in a couple seasons.

Of course, maybe Vegas leaves Grubauer with Washington in order to take Orlov or Schmidt instead.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Browndog71

On the bright side, if Mason ends up being our guy, he usually has some cool masks.

Like Hiller.

[Bingo]

If the club sees Grubauer/Raanta as a huge upgrade to Mason/Elliott I think they'll make the push, but if they don't why not keep the assets, settle on a UFA goaltender, and use the trade chips to upgrade their top 4 D