Police shooting of unarmed teen leads to protests and Riot

[Acey]

Originally Posted by PIMking

yes it did, it did it's job. Did people riot after OJ got off from killing his wife?

Black people misbehave. We're broke and dumb, it's just a part of America (no sarcasm). I'm trying to separate this from the fact that, maybe, this shouldn't have gone to a grand jury? Which is all I was saying from the beginning.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by PIMking

Doesn't matter if he did or didn't. Punch a cop and see what happens.

Don't need to in beautiful Calgary, Alberta where cops treat people like humans.

[lanny9]

Originally Posted by PIMking

yes it did, it did it's job. Did people riot after OJ got off from killing his whitewife?

FYP lol

[nik-]

Originally Posted by PIMking

it was a court of law!

I'm done, the cop is guilty and should've been put in the chair!

No one is saying that, they're saying there should have been a trial.

Jesus ####ing christ man.

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Saw an interview with one prosecutor, I think, and she said, we didn't become the highest incarceration country by not taking people to trial on conflicting eye witness accounts. I'm paraphrasing, but think that was the gist.

Okay I'm confused by that, what does that mean?

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by Arya Stark

Don't need to in beautiful Calgary, Alberta where cops treat people like humans.

don't break laws and you wont have to deal with them here either

[nik-]

Originally Posted by PIMking

don't break laws and you wont have to deal with them here either

Come on now, you're not that naive.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by PIMking

if he were white none of this would be on the tv about.

Shocking considering how similar the histories of white people and black people in the United States are.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by PIMking

yes it did, it did it's job. Did people riot after OJ got off from killing his wife?

Did OJ kill his wife because she was white? If you haven't noticed that's what the rioters claim the cop did, kill him because he was black.

And hey when you look at the mostly white police force in Ferguson I guess you have to wonder if racism is still alive and well there.

Mostly all white police force policing a mostly all Black population. Things were destined to go well..

[Acey]

Originally Posted by Arya Stark

They were pulling black people by chains not that long ago.

And part of what makes black people dumb is burning their city and using this statement as justification. You can't. I'm not ignorant. For starters, I live in Canada, so my life is automatically less ####ty, but my parents went to school and made something of themselves so that I could do the same. Going into any situation assuming white people hate you never ends well, until they actually show that they do... in which case you usually remove yourself from the situation.

Black Americans aren't good at this.

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by Acey

Black people misbehave. We're broke and dumb, it's just a part of America (no sarcasm). I'm trying to separate this from the fact that, maybe, this shouldn't have gone to a grand jury? Which is all I was saying from the beginning.

From what I don't understand is how in the hell the squad car didn't have a camera.

I understand why people are protesting and go for it. 99% of the folks there are doing the right thing and the few bad apples are just trying to stir things up.

I will have to say that I can never say "i know what you mean" because I'm not black, I can't completely relate with black people.

I'm just tired of the racial crap that this has brought. this has turned into another MSM beating the racism drum to get everyone up in arms about everything instead of actually going after what is needed the most in this case and that is police transparency which it's obvious that there is none in STL.

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by Arya Stark

Did OJ kill his wife because she was white? If you haven't noticed that's what the rioters claim the cop did, kill him because he was black.

And hey when you look at the mostly white police force in Ferguson I guess you have to wonder if racism is still alive and well there.

Mostly all white police force policing a mostly all Black population. Things were destined to go well..

Who said he killed him because he was black?

Jessie Jackson or his buddy Sharpton?

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by PIMking

yes it did, it did it's job. Did people riot after OJ got off from killing his wife?

Originally Posted by Acey

Black people misbehave. We're broke and dumb, it's just a part of America (no sarcasm). I'm trying to separate this from the fact that, maybe, this shouldn't have gone to a grand jury? Which is all I was saying from the beginning.

Only black people riot.

White people "celebrate." After a championship win--white people "celebrate" by lighting couches on fire and looting. Or after a championship loss--white people also light things on fire and loot--but it's just people getting a little out of control! Hey, West Virginia University has at least one riot a year--but it's always brushed under the rug. Boys being boys and all that.

Numbers have proven that this police force has regularly profiled the people of color in its community. Higher arrest rates, numerous examples of excessive force, etc, etc. This is a community that is terrified of the authorities who are supposed to be protecting them, and yes, they are lashing out.

But if we can overlook it as nonsense when it's sports fans reacting to an overall meaningless sporting event--I'm pretty sure we can give a little bit of rope to a community that is angry, that is hurting, that is scared.

This community deserves a police force that they can trust, and the men in power at the moment don't look at all like they're capable of being that force.

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by nik-

Come on now, you're not that naive.

no, I don't go out and rob gas stations and then walk down the middle of the street so I dont have any reason to be stopped by a LEO.

don't break laws and you wont have to deal with cops.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by nik-

He was suggesting their motivation for lying was that he was a white cop.

Yes, he suggested that their motivation for lying was that he was a white cop. Right or wrong given the media up-roar, if there were people who came forward after the fact, it is entirely possible.

But he called them liars based on the DA's statement that their testimony did not match the testimony of others or the evidence.

Neither point is based on any solid facts. But that does not mean he thinks they are obviously liars because he's a white cop. He thinks they lied because he's a white cop.

To me it seemed like you were taking a stance of, [Stop defending him, because he's a white cop].

I don't want to defend anyone in this situation because it looks like there are allot of wrong people in this, and I know everyone wants to talk about the past in this conversation, but we can't control or change that at this point. Where it stands now if things are going to improve in the US they need to work on mutual respect and trust, and that has to come from both sides. People basically exaggerating or falsifying their statements to defend a member of their community at the expense of someone in another community will not bring about improvement weather White/Black/Brown.......

[codynw]

WHY ARE THEY BURNING LITTLE CAESARS?

Pizza did nothing to you.

[AcGold]

Originally Posted by PIMking

don't break laws and you wont have to deal with cops.

depends where you live, not everyone is so fortunate to be free from unjust police persecution. In some places in the States it's mandated for the police to do so.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by PIMking

yes it did, it did it's job. Did people riot after OJ got off from killing his wife?

When Casey Anthony got off, they did the white equivalent: voice displeasure on social media. Likely because white people, on average, are better behaved. But I am ignorant for saying something that is quite obviously true given that I've lived it my whole life?

To some degree, I think I'm actually on your side on this. I hate how racial it got.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by Acey

And part of what makes black people dumb is burning their city and using this statement as justification. You can't. I'm not ignorant. For starters, I live in Canada, so my life is automatically less ####ty, but my parents went to school and made something of themselves so that I could do the same. Going into any situation assuming white people hate you never ends well, until they actually show that they do... in which case you usually remove yourself from the situation.

Black Americans aren't good at this.

White people burned their city to the ground over a hockey game. Again, I know you're black but think you're wrong. The fact they are black is not why they are rioting, it's how they think they have been wronged. Not every one is as strong as your parents. Some just have zero hope from the start and them being Black is part of that reason.

Nobody can deny that being born white vs Black in America gives you an automatic advantage.

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

Only black people riot.

White people "celebrate." After a championship win--white people "celebrate" by lighting couches on fire and looting. Or after a championship loss--white people also light things on fire and loot--but it's just people getting a little out of control! Hey, West Virginia University has at least one riot a year--but it's always brushed under the rug. Boys being boys and all that.

Numbers have proven that this police force has regularly profiled the people of color in its community. Higher arrest rates, numerous examples of excessive force, etc, etc. This is a community that is terrified of the authorities who are supposed to be protecting them, and yes, they are lashing out.

But if we can overlook it as nonsense when it's sports fans reacting to an overall meaningless sporting event--I'm pretty sure we can give a little bit of rope to a community that is angry, that is hurting, that is scared.

This community deserves a police force that they can trust, and the men in power at the moment don't look at all like they're capable of being that force.

While I agree the police will never be trusted by the majority of people. They've done nothing to really be trusted because most of the time that you deal with them you're going to have pay a fine.

It seems that the LEO's have this Us vs Them mindset and that has made them a little trigger happy.