Bernie may of won, though he lost the primary not, because of "rigging" but that he focused his campaign on white america and how the democrats lost them.
Based on the leaked emails, there was no doubt that the DNC was rigged against him. Whether that is why he lost or not is certainly up for debate, but it did leave a sour taste in the Sanders supporters where you have emails showing Clinton was told of debate questions before hand and DNC staff were trying to bring up Sanders being an atheist to hurt his chances.
Maybe it would be more accurate to say that the DNC was rigged for Clinton as opposed to against Sanders, but it was obvious that the DNC had their candidate in mind and ultimately that's very likely why they lost this election. I don't see any other nominee losing to Trump, but perhaps I'm naive.
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6.8 million fewer black voters came out than voted for Obama
was it apathy? Suppression? both?
Bit of both. A media narrative that she was running away with it gives you this. If people think it's in the bag they stay home or start with the "now I can vote my conscience" stuff. Lowest voter turnout since 2000 right? That was Trump's recipe for success and damned if it didn't work like a charm.
You guys are so melodramatic. This sun will still rise, life goes on. Despite what the media has told you, Trump is not going to burn America to the ground.
Seriously, anyone know how to disable Tapatalk from emailing me about every time someone quotes me?? I can't find it anywhere in the Tapatalk settings.
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Probably, that and ever increasing gerrymandering disenfranchising those who live in a district/county where their vote quite literally doesn't matter.
I'm sure there was some of that but I actually believe that the Clinton campaign really overestimated how much support they would get from the black community. I saw many exit poll interviews last night with black voters and the common theme was that they did not like Clinton. The black vote didn't come out because they didn't relate or trust either candidate.
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You guys are so melodramatic. This sun will still rise, life goes on. Despite what the media has told you, Trump is not going to burn America to the ground.
The animals that have held the congress for the last six years, behaving like children during the Obama presidency, now have full control of the federal government. Even if you don't think Trump is a true believer (I personally don't), the wave of extreme right that has risen up in the last half decade is now the unhindered policy mechanism for the United States.
6.8 million fewer black voters came out than voted for Obama
was it apathy? Suppression? both?
I'm hoping that 538 or upshot will due an analysis on minority turnout vs voter suppression initiatives to try to tease out the apathy vs suppression.
For example if NC is way down relative to democratic governed states than the suppression affect was real. The laws certainly appeared to reduce AA early voting in NC but again it could have been an enthusiasm gap.
Nope. He is definitely racist, but where we (I) was wrong in assuming only other racists would support him.
as GGG said he got less votes then Romney. People just didn't vote for Hillary. Hillary is going to get less votes than McCain!
As Michael Moore says in the video Thor posted above. White man over 35 only make up 19% of the population.
by definition I am a racist, i don't support Canada's spike in Syrian refugees (Hillary wanted to increase the US intake 6-fold) and I don't support illegal immigration. We can get into this further, Muslim immigration is a problem and it makes me a racist to say so.
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You guys are so melodramatic. This sun will still rise, life goes on. Despite what the media has told you, Trump is not going to burn America to the ground.
I think it's been said many times, but it's not Trump that's the biggest issue, he'll almost certainly be another GWB with everyone else running everything. It's his supporters who are the problem, and how they will take this legitimization of their grievances against minorities and women. America becoming a more hateful and less decent place isn't good for anyone.
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All the time spent by liberal leaning people in the media and on social media attacking Trump for his alleged sexism, racism, bigotry, and ignoring actual policy have all aided in Trump becoming president.
Clinton and her useless campaign lead this charge. Actually let me back up a little; the Democratic party which was in the tank for Hilary (proven with leaked emails) who decided to do everything in their power to get Hilary nominated over Bernie started this mess. This was an election that was likely to break for a populist. Instead of putting up a Populist with true liberal ideas and policies, a humanist who spent his life actually serving people and not themselves, we got the most unlikable liberal politician in America.
So we have this career driven, me first, career politician who's nearly as unlikable as a total bigot like Trump. So what do they do? They attack Trump and his "character" over and over instead of letting Trump open his dumb mouth and do it for them. So you have all these middle class people who haven't had a raise in over a decade with no one on the democratic side talking to them, telling them what their policy is, just saying over and over "Trump is bad, is racist, etc". But he's the one telling them how he will fix, even if it's not totally credible. They think he cares and she's just a career politician who's in it for her and no one else.
This result looks good on progressive liberals who did everything they could to see Clinton get in over a better qualified and far more principled person in Bernie Sanders.
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If anything, Trump is protectionist, not racist. I have to admit that I used to be a fan of The Apprentice. I remember when The_Only_Turek_Fan had Trumps' assistant Carolyn as his avatar and I was kind of a fan too in that time. I went back and read his writings in the 80s, all his interviews in the 80s. It was the exact same thing as today. American jobs, foreign powers not paying for the national defense America is paying for, and back then - it was the Japanese he was against (instead of China)...supposedly flooding the US with their cars and VCRs.
Keeping both legal and illegal immigrants out was a way to appeal to that part of his base that were potentially racist but also basically just a protectionist rant.
That's why I'm unsure of whether or not he's actually good for the Canadian O&G industry. If anything, he would be protectionist of American oil interests and not Canadian ones. He has threatened to increase taxes and leavies on foreign products.
I can't see any good for Canada coming of this, with the possible exception of a pipeline being built. The rest will be a huge turd sandwich, to say nothing of the wretched cultural influence that will be broadcast our way for the next few years.
by definition I am a racist, i don't support Canada's spike in Syrian refugees (Hillary wanted to increase the US intake 6-fold) and I don't support illegal immigration. We can get into this further, Muslim immigration is a problem and it makes me a racist to say so.
That doesn't make you racist, just probably uninformed.
Yes, he manipulated them, gave them a scapegoat and exploited them to victory. When he fails them, they get to be even more angry. Nothing's getting better out of this.
that first part sounds like something from the 30's
Based on the leaked emails, there was no doubt that the DNC was rigged against him. Whether that is why he lost or not is certainly up for debate, but it did leave a sour taste in the Sanders supporters where you have emails showing Clinton was told of debate questions before hand and DNC staff were trying to bring up Sanders being an atheist to hurt his chances.
Maybe it would be more accurate to say that the DNC was rigged for Clinton as opposed to against Sanders, but it was obvious that the DNC had their candidate in mind and ultimately that's very likely why they lost this election. I don't see any other nominee losing to Trump, but perhaps I'm naive.
I think Trumps strategy against Sanders would be different and Sanders would get killed. No way America votes for a socialist.
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Bit of both. A media narrative that she was running away with it gives you this. If people think it's in the bag they stay home or start with the "now I can vote my conscience" stuff. Lowest voter turnout since 2000 right? That was Trump's recipe for success and damned if it didn't work like a charm.
Actually I've read both, that voter turnout was 18 million lower than last election (lowest since 2000), and I've also read that voter turnout was up 4.7% vs 2012, so might be a bit until we know for sure.
Also Immigration Canada confirmed that it crashed due to huge increase in traffic as Trump was winning.
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He won by getting a lot of support of racists and sexists. His talk of banning Muslims alone probably pushed him over the top.
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Well, more than half of the country voted for Clinton so can we amend your statement? Something like "almost half of voting Americans are stupid. The majority of voting Americans are pretty darn smart."
I can't see any good for Canada coming of this, with the possible exception of a pipeline being built. The rest will be a huge turd sandwich, to say nothing of the wretched cultural influence that will be broadcast our way for the next few years.
After reading the post you quoted, I tried to google "Trump's Assistant" and it autofilled Trumps Assassination.
... nice try NSA.
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I think people are really overthinking this. People voted for their parties as usual for the most part. And as always, certain fringe groups held the balance of power.
Trump being a bad candidate didn't chase away as many moderate Republicans as people thought it would and he rallied the right fringe groups to vote for him. That's really what it comes down to. You can ignore and even offend the people who in the end are going to vote for you anyway.
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