04-10-2018, 08:00 AM
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#1
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#1 Goaltender
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Can CP become a "civil" place again?
Don't know where else to post this - and I guess if Bingo and the Mods don't like this post, they can ban me or put the post elsewhere more appropriate, but I've about reached my limit of tolerance on CP.
I don't post often - and personally would even be happy to pay for a forum like this - because I like the discussion about my team, its successes, its woes, and its history. I have often enjoyed the GTs and PGTs and especially the ATLs. There are many thoughtful, quality posters and posts. They're interesting to read and think about - and discuss.
But the constant bickering, sniping, ad hominem attacks, the repetitive and childish "you're stupid" comments etc have finally gotten to me. The last straw for me was in the thread about green garbage bag day...and the attacks on Dougie.
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Originally Posted by Diemenz
The irrational hate on this board for Hamilton is at a point where it is just plan ludicrous.
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Thanks Diemenz for that, but it's more like "The irrational hate on this board for ANY FLAMES PLAYER WHO HAPPENS TO BECOME THE TARGET OF THE MOMENT is at a point where it is just plan ludicrous."
It's not just Hamilton...over the year, let's see off the top of my head: Stajan, Brouwer, Bartkowski, Ferland, Bennett, Frolik (after Vegas), Glass, Lazar...the list is long of players who have been bashed, trashed and gassed somewhere on the forum.
Disappointment is one thing: outright malice and bile quite another. And most people here are _fans_ of the team. And most would probably be happy to sit down to a beverage or two and discuss things in real life with others.
Maybe CP needs its own green garbage bag day? Or a section of the forum where people can spew and others don't have to put up with it. The remainder of the forum can then return to some form of civil discourse. It's one thing to disagree - and I'm sure some will disagree with this post - but the tone of the forums is (I'm guessing - someone will know posting stats) driving people away. And that is a sad thing.
People post "old man yelling at the cloud" memes...well, it's no better here these days.
So here's a request: think about your posts as if you were sitting across a table discussing the subject with someone you don't know. Would you say what you post? If you wouldn't....don't post it.
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04-10-2018, 08:04 AM
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#2
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It's not easy being green!
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the tubes to Vancouver Island
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No, you’ll never find a more retched hive of scum an villainy.
It’ll pass, there’s a lot of frustration after the season, not to mention the arena fiasco.
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04-10-2018, 08:10 AM
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#3
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First Line Centre
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my urge is to immediately mock this OP
I won't, but this is my urge.
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04-10-2018, 08:10 AM
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#4
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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This has been one of the most frustrating seasons in recent history so it's pretty well as bad as things will ever get IMO. In short time the smoke will clear and depending on how things go this offseason things will get more upbeat in the summer.
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04-10-2018, 08:13 AM
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#5
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Near Fish Creek
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Taxbuster I couldn’t agree more especially with the last paragraph.
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04-10-2018, 08:15 AM
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#7
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Apr 2016
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Taxbuster i think you nailed it with your last quote. Thanks to the anonymity of the internet you end up with guys behind computer screens that say things they would never say to someone face to face and that’s where the respect is lost.
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04-10-2018, 08:16 AM
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#8
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Lifetime Suspension
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The onus is on Treliving to fire GlueGun. That would make fans a bit more optimistic about the future of the Flames.
Ownership could fire Ken King as well which would go along way too.
Quote:
Originally Posted by taxbuster
Don't know where else to post this - and I guess if Bingo and the Mods don't like this post, they can ban me or put the post elsewhere more appropriate, but I've about reached my limit of tolerance on CP.
I don't post often - and personally would even be happy to pay for a forum like this - because I like the discussion about my team, its successes, its woes, and its history. I have often enjoyed the GTs and PGTs and especially the ATLs. There are many thoughtful, quality posters and posts. They're interesting to read and think about - and discuss.
But the constant bickering, sniping, ad hominem attacks, the repetitive and childish "you're stupid" comments etc have finally gotten to me. The last straw for me was in the thread about green garbage bag day...and the attacks on Dougie.
Thanks Diemenz for that, but it's more like "The irrational hate on this board for ANY FLAMES PLAYER WHO HAPPENS TO BECOME THE TARGET OF THE MOMENT is at a point where it is just plan ludicrous."
It's not just Hamilton...over the year, let's see off the top of my head: Stajan, Brouwer, Bartkowski, Ferland, Bennett, Frolik (after Vegas), Glass, Lazar...the list is long of players who have been bashed, trashed and gassed somewhere on the forum.
Disappointment is one thing: outright malice and bile quite another. And most people here are _fans_ of the team. And most would probably be happy to sit down to a beverage or two and discuss things in real life with others.
Maybe CP needs its own green garbage bag day? Or a section of the forum where people can spew and others don't have to put up with it. The remainder of the forum can then return to some form of civil discourse. It's one thing to disagree - and I'm sure some will disagree with this post - but the tone of the forums is (I'm guessing - someone will know posting stats) driving people away. And that is a sad thing.
People post "old man yelling at the cloud" memes...well, it's no better here these days.
So here's a request: think about your posts as if you were sitting across a table discussing the subject with someone you don't know. Would you say what you post? If you wouldn't....don't post it.
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04-10-2018, 08:17 AM
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Franchise Player
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This is nothing. You should wade into the Politics threads and see what they think of Spendshi, Nutley and Junior over there.
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04-10-2018, 08:19 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Calgary
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I don't find this place that bad compared to many forums online. I think the mods do a good job without being heavy-handed. People are going to disagree and get petty about it. That seems to mimic life in general these days. If anything I would be concerned about how they would crack down on it.
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04-10-2018, 08:22 AM
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#11
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First Line Centre
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If the flames would actually do something that would lead to us as an organization having more than 3 playoff series winning seasons in the last 25 years (aka being one of the best 8 teams in the league, or ~top 25%) maybe there would be more optimism.
The GG era has been miserable in terms of entertainment value and results and there is just a lot of fear that it will continue for at least another season.
Les see what happens in the next few weeks and this place likely will get happier
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04-10-2018, 08:24 AM
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
This is nothing. You should wade into the Politics threads and see what they think of Spendshi, Nutley and Junior over there.
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Except for the American Politics thread. It’s a strange place of harmony on CP where almost every poster can share their collective distain for Trump.
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04-10-2018, 08:28 AM
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#14
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rotten42
I don't find this place that bad compared to many forums online. I think the mods do a good job without being heavy-handed. People are going to disagree and get petty about it. That seems to mimic life in general these days. If anything I would be concerned about how they would crack down on it.
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Maybe not that bad compared to other forums but significantly worse than it used to be.
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04-10-2018, 08:29 AM
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#15
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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I just thought everyone hated me.
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04-10-2018, 08:31 AM
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#16
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Uncle Chester
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
I just thought everyone hated me.
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That's a separate issue.
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04-10-2018, 08:31 AM
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#17
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taco.vidal
The onus is on Treliving to fire GlueGun. That would make fans a bit more optimistic about the future of the Flames.
Ownership could fire Ken King as well which would go along way too.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder
If the flames would actually do something that would lead to us as an organization having more than 3 playoff series winning seasons in the last 25 years (aka being one of the best 8 teams in the league, or ~top 25%) maybe there would be more optimism.
The GG era has been miserable in terms of entertainment value and results and there is just a lot of fear that it will continue for at least another season.
Les see what happens in the next few weeks and this place likely will get happier
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People can be unhappy with the Flames, and comment on it, without bashing players on a personal level, using hyperbole they'd never say to that player's face, wading into a tribute thread like Stajan's likely end of career thread just to bitch about that player, posting in game threads about things that have little to do with the game, etc.
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04-10-2018, 08:37 AM
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#18
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Franchise Player
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I think a lot of what ails CP would be cured if the team was good
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04-10-2018, 08:40 AM
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#19
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
In short time the smoke will clear and depending on how things go this offseason things will get more upbeat in the summer.
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Will you be leading the way?
There are a handful of cardinal offenders that drag every thread down and make them unreadable.
Though to be fair, with the exception of the last month or two, there are some great, well thought posts that come around in threads of negativity and they are still getting the majority of thanks. That suggests to me that a smaller percentage of the board is posting the majority of the negative comments. If we can get rid of the needless minority who don't put thought into their position then at least we'll have civility.
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04-10-2018, 08:42 AM
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#20
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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CP: The place where fans hate certain players because they hate them and where fans who like those players aren't looked highly upon.
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