Where does Iginla play next year?

[CliffFletcher]

The number of decent teams that will be able to add a 4+ million, 36-year-old winger next season is vanishingly small. And Iginla is not going to want to move again in a season or two - he'll want term. He may very well end up in Edmonton, especially if he wins the Cup with the Penguins.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The number of decent teams that will be able to add a 4+ million, 36-year-old winger next season is vanishingly small. And Iginla is not going to want to move again in a season or two - he'll want term. He may very well end up in Edmonton, especially if he wins the Cup with the Penguins.

Why do people think that Iginla will want to go from a career with one mostly bad franchise in the Flames to the worst team in the NHL over the past 6 years? You guys really think he wants to finish it the way he started on a bad team? I don't.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by nik-

Agostino is intriguing, but Hanowski ... man. It makes you worry that they're a little too in love with the NCAA players. It's also annoying that a list of teams turned into a list of team.

Hanowski is a character player with some size and grit. You need players like that to win in the NHL, or has no one been watching the playoffs? The guy's skating is a little awkward, but it does not hinder him from getting to the right positions and making plays. I don't see anything wrong with him to this point. He fills a need and didn't look out of place in the games he played at the end of the season.

On Bartowski, where is all that outrage that was present when the possible Bruins trade was announced by Ward? People were pissed that a 24 year old defenseman was in the mix in a trade for Iginla. Now they're lamenting the fact we didn't get him? Times change when a kid gets to play with one of the most stacked teams in the NHL I guess. We'll see how the fans react when his poorly timed pinches and mental errors are exposed by the Penguins. He's looked good against the Rangers, but the Rangers are being led by Rich Nash and Derrick Brassard, two players that were the heart and soul of the second worst team in hockey over the past few years. We'll see how his confidence fairs when he's up against Crosby, Malkin, Neal, Kunitz, Morrow and Iginla. I think his ice time is going to drop like a rock and the same showering him with praise will be questioning the coaching staff for going with so many kids on the blueline.

[moon]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

So much revisionist history about that tournament.

Reading your posts in this thread I agree.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Why do people think that Iginla will want to go from a career with one mostly bad franchise in the Flames to the worst team in the NHL over the past 6 years? You guys really think he wants to finish it the way he started on a bad team? I don't.

The point is, he will probably have few options. If he gets serious offers from only Ottawa, Dallas, Edmonton, and Buffalo, who's to say he won't pick the hometown option? Especially if he wins the Cup with Pittsburgh? And it's entirely possible MacTavish makes some kind of drastic deal at the draft to bring in an impact defenseman.

I wouldn't bet the farm on it, but I think discounting it out of hand overlooks how few options Iginla will probably have. Teams are going to need their shrinking cap space to hold onto their core players, not sign 36-year-old UFAs.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by New Era

Hanowski is a character player with some size and grit. You need players like that to win in the NHL, or has no one been watching the playoffs? The guy's skating is a little awkward, but it does not hinder him from getting to the right positions and making plays. I don't see anything wrong with him to this point. He fills a need and didn't look out of place in the games he played at the end of the season.

Did you see him on TV or live? I saw him live and the guy looked like an amateur skating with the pros. He's way too slow for the NHL and will never be a full time player. I'm not even sure if he will carve out a solid AHL career without improving his skating.

[moon]

Originally Posted by New Era

Hanowski is a character player with some size and grit. You need players like that to win in the NHL, or has no one been watching the playoffs? The guy's skating is a little awkward, but it does not hinder him from getting to the right positions and making plays. I don't see anything wrong with him to this point. He fills a need and didn't look out of place in the games he played at the end of the season.

Sure teams need grit and size but they need the guys providing that to be NHL level players not scrubs who can't keep up to the play.

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Did you see him on TV or live? I saw him live and the guy looked like an amateur skating with the pros. He's way too slow for the NHL and will never be a full time player. I'm not even sure if he will carve out a solid AHL career without improving his skating.

So maybe, now that he is part of a pro program, he will get the attention and help he needs with his skating.

I am not completely endorsing the guy but he wouldn't be the first guy in the NHL who wasn't a great skater, it's a little soon to write him off.

Edit...had the chance to see him live...his biggest issue is his first 3 strides IMO

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The point is, he will probably have few options. If he gets serious offers from only Ottawa, Dallas, Edmonton, and Buffalo, who's to say he won't pick the hometown option? Especially if he wins the Cup with Pittsburgh? And it's entirely possible MacTavish makes some kind of drastic deal at the draft to bring in an impact defenseman.

I wouldn't bet the farm on it, but I think discounting it out of hand overlooks how few options Iginla will probably have. Teams are going to need their shrinking cap space to hold onto their core players, not sign 36-year-old UFAs.

Why do people think he will have few options? He's still going to be one of the if not the premier UFA's this offseason. He may not have a big payday waiting from the good teams but there will be lots of teams interested especially if he continues to play a role in the Penguins getting to the Stanley Cup finals. Meehan's phone will be busy on July 1st and Iginla will have plenty of options and I don't believe Edmonton will be one of them that is considered. Vancouver is a real possibility but Edmonton I would say no chance.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Did you see him on TV or live? I saw him live and the guy looked like an amateur skating with the pros. He's way too slow for the NHL and will never be a full time player. I'm not even sure if he will carve out a solid AHL career without improving his skating.

Love it! A guy hasn't been a Flames for more than 10 games and the usual suspects are crapping all over him. Why do I have a feeling that the same would be happening to Bartowski if he were a Flame?

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Why do people think he will have few options? He's still going to be one of the if not the premier UFA's this offseason. He may not have a big payday waiting from the good teams but there will be lots of teams interested especially if he continues to play a role in the Penguins getting to the Stanley Cup finals. Meehan's phone will be busy on July 1st and Iginla will have plenty of options and I don't believe Edmonton will be one of them that is considered. Vancouver is a real possibility but Edmonton I would say no chance.

"Interested" depends on the "Price."

If he doesn't care too much how much he makes, there will be a larger number of teams interested and he can pick his destination. If price is a very important point to him, his choices will be limited.

Calgary should not make him an offer though. It would be a mistake for both himself and for the franchise for him to come back.

Time to move on for both partiies. It's over. Deal with it.

Cowperson

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by New Era

Love it! A guy hasn't been a Flames for more than 10 games and the usual suspects are crapping all over him. Why do I have a feeling that the same would be happening to Bartowski if he were a Flame?

I might not be an NHL scout, but i have seen enough hockey in my time to see that Hanowski has major work to do in his skating to make the NHL.

As for your other post, some of us saw that Bartowski was ready for a cup of coffee with an NHL team, and thought he was a much better throw in player, "asset value wise" over the 2 players we got from Pitt. Add in the Russian and it was a no brainer on which trade was better.

The only reason the 2 players from the Pitt deal got praise was that the trade came out of left field and they were already members of the flames. The usual "koolaid" drinkers started praising them because they were flames. The Boston deal that fell through took hours, so CP had time to bash the players from that deal because they were not flames yet. Those CP had this image of getting top prospect after top prospect , plus 1st's for Iggy. THey were not realistic.

I shake my head at posters that think the 2 deals are similar.

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I might not be an NHL scout, but i have seen enough hockey in my time to see that Hanowski has major work to do in his skating to make the NHL.

As for your other post, some of us saw that Bartowski was ready for a cup of coffee with an NHL team, and thought he was a much better throw in player, "asset value wise" over the 2 players we got from Pitt. Add in the Russian and it was a no brainer on which trade was better.

The only reason the 2 players from the Pitt deal got praise was that the trade came out of left field and they were already members of the flames. The usual "koolaid" drinkers started praising them because they were flames. The Boston deal that fell through took hours, so CP had time to bash the players from that deal because they were not flames yet. Those CP had this image of getting top prospect after top prospect , plus 1st's for Iggy. THey were not realistic.

I shake my head at posters that think the 2 deals are similar.

Totally agree, Hanowski needs big time work on his skating but now it's his full time job so it will be interesting to see the evolution of him as a player.

[redforever]

Like what does it even matter if Bartowski is a better player than Hanowski?

This has nothing to do with poor scouting on behalf of the Flames. Iginla said he was going to Pittsburgh if he waived his no trade clause. That was Iginla's perogative as per his contract...and he earned that contract.

The Flames made do with the situation presented to them.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by BigFlameDog

Totally agree, Hanowski needs big time work on his skating but now it's his full time job so it will be interesting to see the evolution of him as a player.

Tyler Tofoli did not NHL skating ability a year ago.

[FanIn80]

I think Iginla re-signs in Pittsburgh. He'll take less to do it, too.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

I think Iginla re-signs in Pittsburgh. He'll take less to do it, too.

That's the way i see it.I believe he has already moved his family to Pittsburgh. I would not be shocked if he signed a one year deal for $3 million to make it happen.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

"Interested" depends on the "Price."

If he doesn't care too much how much he makes, there will be a larger number of teams interested and he can pick his destination. If price is a very important point to him, his choices will be limited.

Calgary should not make him an offer though. It would be a mistake for both himself and for the franchise for him to come back.

Time to move on for both partiies. It's over. Deal with it.

Cowperson

I agree. Iginla has been a money player his whole career. I am 100% expecting to see him comprimise his desire to win with his desire for cold hard cash.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

"Interested" depends on the "Price."

If he doesn't care too much how much he makes, there will be a larger number of teams interested and he can pick his destination. If price is a very important point to him, his choices will be limited.

Calgary should not make him an offer though. It would be a mistake for both himself and for the franchise for him to come back.

Time to move on for both partiies. It's over. Deal with it.

Cowperson

The fact that he sold his Calgary house tells me that he is clearly looking at the Flames in the rear view mirror. If he wants a big payday obviously he will limit his opportunities but it remains to be seen how important money is. You can never underestimate the stupidity of GM's come July 1st and who saw that Buffalo offer to Doan coming last year? I simply don't buy at all that he's going to have to settle for a loser team like the Oilers because they will be one of the few teams to open up their cheque book.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The fact that he sold his Calgary house tells me that he is clearly looking at the Flames in the rear view mirror. If he wants a big payday obviously he will limit his opportunities but it remains to be seen how important money is. You can never underestimate the stupidity of GM's come July 1st and who saw that Buffalo offer to Doan coming last year? I simply don't buy at all that he's going to have to settle for a loser team like the Oilers because they will be one of the few teams to open up their cheque book.

I also doubt he'll settle for a loser team, but I can see if some 2nd tier contenders like St. Louis, Ottawa or even the Leafs offer a little more money than say Pittsburgh, Chicago or Boston; that he will go where the money is.

If getting a Cup was as important to Iginla as it seems to be to some of his fans, I think he would have moved on a couple of years ago already.