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Old 12-17-2025, 11:37 AM   #16281
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I've been high on Byfield for a long time, but I'm even starting to lose faith. The physical attributes are all there, but I wonder if he just lacks the hockey sense.

Not sure how much I would pay for him.
Yeah, I think I am at the same point. Which makes it unlikely at best that the flames could get him- they probably aren't going to let him go or sell too short yet, and especially not within the division, but I wouldnt want the flames to trade picks for him in the current situation, for example.

Well, maybe the vegas pick lol.
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Old 12-17-2025, 11:45 AM   #16282
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Many on here were fond of acquiring Dach but aren't high on Byfield which seems wild to me.

I'd easily take Byfield on Calgary, I think he needs both a change of scenery and some more structured line-mates.

Rasmus already nixxed an L.A deal so I doubt there's anything going to happen.
Kadri++ ... but I doubt he wants LA as well.
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I think some Treliving memes are somewhat over the top.

It's a good thing to be in on every trade discussion.
And he had his share of blockbuster trades as well.
I saw that being in on most trades was a good way for him to get an objective valuation of his assets.
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I think you'd have to be nuts to move Byfield. He's already a strong second line player and still has the potential to be so much more. There's no down side to keeping him, but he has a potential massive upside.
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Byfield is young enough for me to be okay if the Flames packaged up the Vegas 1st for him.
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Old 12-17-2025, 11:49 AM   #16286
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Byfield is young enough for me to be okay if the Flames packaged up the Vegas 1st for him.
For that type of price, sure, but I suspect LA would want far more.

In fact, I bet any theoretical conversation would start with Parekh.
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Would love to give Byfield a chance here in Calgary.

Also, I find it awesome/hilarious when usually-desired NHL destinations (such as LA) are on a players' no-trade list. I'm sure Calgary is on tons, but if LA is? I find that #### so funny haha. Probably super confusing to them as to why.
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Would love to give Byfield a chance here in Calgary.

Also, I find it awesome/hilarious when usually-desired NHL destinations (such as LA) are on a players' no-trade list. I'm sure Calgary is on tons, but if LA is? I find that #### so funny haha. Probably super confusing to them as to why.
LA feels like a pretty polarizing place. Some people love it. Some people hate it.

I fall into the latter. I would not live in LA for any amount of money.

SF/San Jose area - sure
San Diego - yup.

LA? No way.
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Byfield is young enough for me to be okay if the Flames packaged up the Vegas 1st for him.
I don't see a very late 1st as the main piece in a Byfield package. Acquiring him is going to hurt and involve moving a futures piece (or pieces) with a lot more upside.
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For that type of price, sure, but I suspect LA would want far more.

In fact, I bet any theoretical conversation would start with Parekh.
Oh I'm sure the Kings would want more. All's I'm saying is, if the Flames wanted Byfield and they had to include the Vegas 1st, I'm okay with that. I'll throw a hypothetical out there,

Zary, VGK 1st and Mews for Byfield.
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Oh I'm sure the Kings would want more. All's I'm saying is, if the Flames wanted Byfield and they had to include the Vegas 1st, I'm okay with that. I'll throw a hypothetical out there,

Zary, VGK 1st and Mews for Byfield.
Done. Fax it over!
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Zary, Vegas 1st, + for Byfield? what is the plus outside of our very best prospects?

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I've been high on Byfield for a long time, but I'm even starting to lose faith. The physical attributes are all there, but I wonder if he just lacks the hockey sense.

Not sure how much I would pay for him.
All those prospects to succeeded in junior because they were faster/stronger have some catching up to do. Bennett for example didn't hit his stride until later. Byfield may well become strong enough to return to his game now that he is 23. 55 pts for a 2OA pick isn't great, but I still see potential.
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LA feels like a pretty polarizing place. Some people love it. Some people hate it.

I fall into the latter. I would not live in LA for any amount of money.

SF/San Jose area - sure
San Diego - yup.

LA? No way.
I absolutely love love love California. San Diego/Bay Area? 100% absolutely. LA? I could do it, although SD would be my first choice for a large city. My fave spot to live would be anywhere around Monterey Bay, so Santa Cruz/Monterey, etc... gorgeous area. What a dream that would be.
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I don't view it as an intentional strategy to stay mushy middle. I think it's an organizational strategic shortcoming, perhaps as a result of an ownership mandate, that more often than not leads them directly to the middle of the pack.

Failing to move assets when they're diminishing, over and over again, and moving too many draft picks (too early in the competitive window) are common traits of Flames management over the years.
Is it though?

They moved Glencross for example and then made the playoffs in order to maximize asset value with Giordano gone for the season.

Not a lot of players get moved with more than 1.5-2.0 years of term left.

I think Treliving felt he had a championship core and was adding to it ... and then it blew up; Covid, Monahan's injury being two of the biggest culprits.
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Zary, Vegas 1st, + for Byfield? what is the plus outside of our very best prospects?

dammage beat me to it
Agreed.

If LA is going to field offers on Byfield I think you can rest assured they’re not looking to sell him off for Pennie’s on the dollar. There would need to be a significant asset, or two, going the other way.

Keep seeing these pie in the sky proposals where the Flames are giving up a collection of stuff for a high upside prospect (Iginla, Hage, Byfield). Why would LA do this (Mews, Zary and a 1st)? What’s the motivation for LA? Get worse now?
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Lots of players nix some U.S cities due to schooling system(s) they don't want their kids to have to wear bulletproof backpacks to school.
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Certainly would be interested in a Byfield trade if possible but tough to see the fit for LA. Maybe if the deal was at the draft?
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Certainly would be interested in a Byfield trade if possible but tough to see the fit for LA. Maybe if the deal was at the draft?
What do the flames have that would entice the Kings to deal with them?

Kopitar retiring so subtracting from their C depth even further seems unlikely unless they’re bringing in a C to replace Byfield. Philip Danault’s status further complicates things from their end.

Not saying I would do this but if I were LA and I was serious about moving Byfield, I’d be talking to the Canucks about Pettersen. Probably other pieces involved to offset salary and create more balance but I think the Kings are in a weird spot. Not good enough to compete and not bad enough to rebuild. They just made a big commitment to Kempe so I suspect they intend to stay competitive.
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Pettersson for Byfield is an interesting swap for sure.
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