09-01-2025, 04:56 AM
|
#8521
|
First Line Centre
|
Anyone interested in Isak Rosén? Drafted as a C, but playing as a RW. Doesn’t seem to have a path forward in Buffalo. Would be a buy low candidate and could be a change of scenery candidate. Not ideal size but seems to have grown since his draft year.
https://t.co/gtXy814tpv
|
|
|
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to The Original FFIV For This Useful Post:
|
|
09-01-2025, 06:01 AM
|
#8522
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Original FFIV
Anyone interested in Isak Rosén? Drafted as a C, but playing as a RW. Doesn’t seem to have a path forward in Buffalo. Would be a buy low candidate and could be a change of scenery candidate. Not ideal size but seems to have grown since his draft year.
https://t.co/gtXy814tpv
|
I've suggested Rosen a few times before when discussing possible trades with Buffalo. I'm fine with his size (6'0",180lbs), and he has exceptional skill and speed. He was considered to be mostly a playmaker when he was drafted IIRC, but it looks like he's added a nice goal-scoring touch, with 61gp/28g/27a/55pts,10 PIM, +4 in the AHL last season. He has everything he needs to be a top-6 player in the NHL, IMO.
|
|
|
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Sandman For This Useful Post:
|
|
09-01-2025, 07:20 AM
|
#8523
|
Franchise Player
|
I haven't been following too much this offseason but I had no idea that the Oilers asked both Henrique and Nurse to waive their No Trade Clauses this offseason.
Kind of funny considering Henrique was only signed to a 2 year deal last season. I guess the GM doesn't have much vision.
|
|
|
09-01-2025, 07:54 AM
|
#8524
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by midniteowl
Would the media have time to talk about Andersson when McDiver still not re-resign?
|
Media: ‘Rasmus, good game tonight! The Flames are now undefeated in their first 20 and you are plus 50. What are your thoughts on the McDavid situation up the road?’
Sounds about right as far as media attention goes.
|
|
|
09-01-2025, 07:59 AM
|
#8525
|
#1 Goaltender
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
I haven't been following too much this offseason but I had no idea that the Oilers asked both Henrique and Nurse to waive their No Trade Clauses this offseason.
Kind of funny considering Henrique was only signed to a 2 year deal last season. I guess the GM doesn't have much vision.
|
Bowman is a poor man's Kenny Holland. Kenny at least has a plan, although a bad one generally. Bowman has no plan.
|
|
|
09-01-2025, 08:41 AM
|
#8526
|
Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14
Ahh I see your point, so to clarify I wasn’t trying to bash Bingo’s POV. He had said “I think we can assume he feels the market will improve or he would have dealt him already” which came across as a get out of jail free card for the current scenario we are in. It’s fine to have an assumption but that one was fairly easy to disagree with.
|
I don't see it as a get out of jail free card.
He could have a terrible view of the market. He could have already blown it and missed an opportunity to trade the player for more value than he is seeing now and could see in the future.
But if he had an offer on the table that met his goal he'd do it. If he has an offer on the table that he thinks will be better than what he'll see down the road ... he'll do it.
Some seem to suggest otherwise.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Bingo For This Useful Post:
|
|
09-01-2025, 08:45 AM
|
#8527
|
Participant 
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hackey
You might draft a better player, you also might draft a complete bust. 77 pts in 71 games in the AHL seems like someone worth taking a gamble on for a 30th overall pick. Definitely a higher ceiling than Tomasino. And he's ready now, not 4 years from now.
|
A highly ceiling says who? Tomasino has outscored him in the AHL and NHL so far.
The fact is that he’s not worth a 1st. You can get similar players for a lot less.
Veleno was just passed around and bought out. Farabee was just traded as a cap dump. Holtz was included in a trade that only brought back a bottom sixer and a third. Look at trades involving Pelletier, Kaliyev, etc.
If Bourque was a year or two younger with double the production under his belt, he’s worth a first or even a bit more, but he’s not. So Bourque and a 2nd isn’t some huge get compared to a 1st, conditional 3rd that could be a 2nd, and a younger project with potential.
If anything I think Bourque and a 2nd is the worse deal. Personally I would take Reschny, a 3rd/2nd, and a 25 year old with some potential over Holtz and a 2nd.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to PepsiFree For This Useful Post:
|
|
09-01-2025, 09:41 AM
|
#8528
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
A highly ceiling says who? Tomasino has outscored him in the AHL and NHL so far.
The fact is that he’s not worth a 1st. You can get similar players for a lot less.
Veleno was just passed around and bought out. Farabee was just traded as a cap dump. Holtz was included in a trade that only brought back a bottom sixer and a third. Look at trades involving Pelletier, Kaliyev, etc.
If Bourque was a year or two younger with double the production under his belt, he’s worth a first or even a bit more, but he’s not. So Bourque and a 2nd isn’t some huge get compared to a 1st, conditional 3rd that could be a 2nd, and a younger project with potential.
If anything I think Bourque and a 2nd is the worse deal. Personally I would take Reschny, a 3rd/2nd, and a 25 year old with some potential over Holtz and a 2nd.
|
Hnat Domenichelli also lit up the AHL. We might want to wait to see if Bourque can actually score at the NHL level.
|
|
|
09-01-2025, 10:01 AM
|
#8529
|
Participant 
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
Hnat Domenichelli also lit up the AHL. We might want to wait to see if Bourque can actually score at the NHL level.
|
Another counter point is Alex Newhook, who got a late 1st (31 overall) and a 2nd after putting up almost 3x Bourque’s production and winning a cup at 22. Bourque hadn’t even played in the NHL at that time but a year older than Newhook at the time of the trade with 1/3 of the production and he’s worth almost the same? lol
|
|
|
09-01-2025, 10:22 AM
|
#8531
|
Franchise Player
|
The Sabres were so dumb just drafting gobs of the same type of player. Now they have too many and have to trade some of them off. If the Flames can take advantage of that to bring in Rosen for a reasonable price, I'd be open to it. I don't see obvious fits though for what goes the other way.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Jiri Hrdina For This Useful Post:
|
|
09-01-2025, 10:34 AM
|
#8532
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
The Sabres were so dumb just drafting gobs of the same type of player. Now they have too many and have to trade some of them off. If the Flames can take advantage of that to bring in Rosen for a reasonable price, I'd be open to it. I don't see obvious fits though for what goes the other way.
|
I would see if they would take Hunter B for Rosen.
|
|
|
09-01-2025, 10:36 AM
|
#8533
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
I would see if they would take Hunter B for Rosen.
|
I think I like Hunter B more than Rosen.
They need guys with more size and jam in their pipeline.
So maybe you toss them an offer around Bill Stromgren.
I guy like Coleman would be what they need near-term, but again, the issue is no one will go to Buffalo that has any sort of trade protection.
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:47 AM.
|
|