For folks getting a day off it is important to spend 20-30 minutes remembering what happened.
From the final report of the TRC
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. In the summer of 1957, R. F. Davey asked H. B. Rodine, the Saskatchewan inspector of schools, to investigate concerns about the principal at the Gordon’s school in Saskatchewan. He was alleged to have shaved off the hair of two girls who had run away, punished one girl so severely that she needed hospitalization, and bullied students.120 Rodine discovered that the principal had resigned and booked passage to England. While heads had not been shaved, the hair of runaway girls had been very closely cropped in previous years. On the advice of local Indian agent W. J. D. Kerley, the principal had discontinued the practice. It also appeared that a girl had been hospitalized a year earlier, apparently as the result of punishment. Although Inspector Rodine found it difficult to obtain details, he concluded that “the general impression conveyed was that certainly bullying is quite prevalent.” All but one member of the previous year’s staff had quit in frustration, due to what Rodine described as the principal’s “overbearing attitude.”
For folks getting a day off it is important to spend 20-30 minutes remembering what happened.
From the final report of the TRC
NSFW!
. In the summer of 1957, R. F. Davey asked H. B. Rodine, the Saskatchewan inspector of schools, to investigate concerns about the principal at the Gordon’s school in Saskatchewan. He was alleged to have shaved off the hair of two girls who had run away, punished one girl so severely that she needed hospitalization, and bullied students.120 Rodine discovered that the principal had resigned and booked passage to England. While heads had not been shaved, the hair of runaway girls had been very closely cropped in previous years. On the advice of local Indian agent W. J. D. Kerley, the principal had discontinued the practice. It also appeared that a girl had been hospitalized a year earlier, apparently as the result of punishment. Although Inspector Rodine found it difficult to obtain details, he concluded that “the general impression conveyed was that certainly bullying is quite prevalent.” All but one member of the previous year’s staff had quit in frustration, due to what Rodine described as the principal’s “overbearing attitude.”
Folks it is important to spend 20-30 minutes remembering what happened.
Day off or not, it should be important to all of us. The last residential schools closed as late as '97. (Originally was 1996 but one in Nunavut was recognized in 2019 I guess)
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Back in 2013 or 2014 when it started, I was in the camp of "what good will it do?" or "how will this change anything?"
But now, I'm rocking my orange shirt
I think of today as intergenerational trauma day. Don't most of us have some of that in our families? But for first nations, the government of Canada encouraged and facilitated that trauma which has since been handed down
I recently learned what I think is a Swedish proverb than seems appropriate for today "Joy shared is doubled. Sadness shared is halved."
For me now, wearing an orange shirt is a small way of acknowledging the pain. And maybe, by recognizing the pain, I share a little of it and it gets a tiny bit less unbearable
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I think it's also important to remember that many atrocities and wrongdoing happened long before the first school was even set up. Europeans stole the land and killed (intentionally and unintentionally) countless Indigenous people from many nations.
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For folks getting a day off it is important to spend 20-30 minutes remembering what happened.
I'm sure the whole 5.9% of Canada's workforce loved this holiday, of that number only about half actually got the day off and the others worked on overtime, if we made it a real holiday and not just for federal regulated workers people might just take it seriously and give some heart felt thoughts.
IMO a lot holidays in general are stupid, Nov 11 should be the most important holiday of the year yet most people have to work, where's the holiday for May 8th? most people don't even know what happened that day yet we celebrate a birthday and other dumb shait for fictional characters/events.
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I'm sure the whole 5.9% of Canada's workforce loved this holiday, of that number only about half actually got the day off and the others worked on overtime, if we made it a real holiday and not just for federal regulated workers people might just take it seriously and give some heart felt thoughts.
IMO a lot holidays in general are stupid, Nov 11 should be the most important holiday of the year yet most people have to work, where's the holiday for May 8th? most people don't even know what happened that day yet we celebrate a birthday and other dumb shait for fictional characters/events.
This one belongs in the gear grinder thread. Our company closes that day (as they should) yet many of our customers offices do not and therfore they expect us to provide normal service.
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Yep. The queen's birthday is a national holiday, but Remembrance Day isn't.
Make it make sense.
I can't make May Long make sense, but my company stays open on Remembrance Day and my staff takes it off between Christmas and New Years.
It's their choice and I think it's reasonable for them to make that trade.
On my production side, exactly zero of my staff members are Canadian. Polish, Ukrainian, Colombian, Indian and Chinese. There is great value to them and their lives visiting loved ones over that longer break in December.
My wife and I take time to remember on November 11. Her grandpa (I knew him, he was cool as sht) was a navigator in WWII in Lancaster bombers. Her grandma (also cool) was a British war bride and also served in England. My grandpa was a ground troop in Europe and my other Grandpa was a POW of Japan. I think it's completely possible and reasonable to honour and remember our veterans while also working an eight-hour day. I would also not want to take away from my staff extra time off at a time more important to them.
I'm not into judging companies who work November 11.
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I'm not into judging companies who work November 11.
Here is the thing about Nov 11, it is about remembering those that have fought for freedom.
Freedom allows people to make decisions.
I think Nov 11 should be a full on Stat nobody working. But I also vehemently believe in the freedoms that we have. So while I don't agree, I am heartened to see people exercise those rights and freedoms even those I don't agree with.
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I can't make May Long make sense, but my company stays open on Remembrance Day and my staff takes it off between Christmas and New Years.
It's their choice and I think it's reasonable for them to make that trade.
On my production side, exactly zero of my staff members are Canadian. Polish, Ukrainian, Colombian, Indian and Chinese. There is great value to them and their lives visiting loved ones over that longer break in December.
My wife and I take time to remember on November 11. Her grandpa (I knew him, he was cool as sht) was a navigator in WWII in Lancaster bombers. Her grandma (also cool) was a British war bride and also served in England. My grandpa was a ground troop in Europe and my other Grandpa was a POW of Japan. I think it's completely possible and reasonable to honour and remember our veterans while also working an eight-hour day. I would also not want to take away from my staff extra time off at a time more important to them.
I'm not into judging companies who work November 11.
My point is that it should be a national holiday. It is more important than other holidays we have.
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National Day of Truth and Reconciliation
