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View Poll Results: Is this a fair deal
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Old 12-12-2023, 04:14 PM   #1
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Default Ottawa trade for review Part I

Team: Chicago Blackhawks

- Petry, Jeff (D) NHL
- Cirelli, Anthony (C) NHL
- Chytil, Filip (C) NHL
- Hildeby, Dennis (G) AHL
- 2025 2nd Round Draft Choice (car)


Team: Ottawa Senators

- Zibanejad, Mika (C) NHL
- Terry, Troy (C) NHL
- Samuelsson, Mattias (D) NHL

Ottawa Senators sends Chicago Blackhawks $2.25 million for the 2023-24 season
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Old 12-12-2023, 06:23 PM   #2
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Haven't voted yet. I'm a little torn on this one, because it isn't bad.

I think that cirelli and 2nd isn't horrible for zad.

That leaves petry, chytil and hildeby for Terry and Samuelsson, which I think is a little light.

Will have to actually look at some stats
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Old 12-12-2023, 06:33 PM   #3
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It's pretty close.
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Old 12-12-2023, 09:11 PM   #4
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Samuelson is a pretty solid d and still young
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Old 12-12-2023, 10:20 PM   #5
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Samuelson is a pretty solid d and still young

He's very good defensively.
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Old 12-13-2023, 07:48 AM   #6
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Not a fan of this trade based on how many GMs have been looking for a true #1 C (look no further than the desperate Habs).

There is no way new guy knows this just coming in and I think could have fetched a good return on Z by himself. The other two guys he's sending are not shabby either.
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Old 12-13-2023, 11:29 AM   #7
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Old 12-13-2023, 02:32 PM   #8
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no matter how I slice this one, it doesn't really make sense to me. Zibanejad is a stud, Terry is serviceable and Samuelsson is young and has upside ... the pieces coming back don't really reflect all of that IMO. Petry is 36 and an upcoming UFA. Cirelli is fine, but I feel there is not enough coming back, given the quality of the three that Ottawa is giving up.
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Old 12-13-2023, 04:59 PM   #9
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I will say there’s a difference between fair and vetoable

Vetoes should only occur on blatant wins or fleeces or whatever you want to call them
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I will say there’s a difference between fair and vetoable

Vetoes should only occur on blatant wins or fleeces or whatever you want to call them
It's also to give a new GM a realistic view of what trading in the CPHL is like. I think almost every new GM has had a rejected trade, and that's healthy.
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Old 12-13-2023, 05:36 PM   #11
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I think it’s as simple as take Samuelsson out and it’s good
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I will say there’s a difference between fair and vetoable

Vetoes should only occur on blatant wins or fleeces or whatever you want to call them
A team like Ottawa is already very short on assets. So them trading what few valuable assets they have remaining, for a not good return, just makes the problem worse.

But this is why we do it this way. We put it to a vote. It doesn't rest in the hands of one person or a select few.

This is one that seems like could be tweaked and re-submitted with some ease to improve the return to Ottawa.
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Old 12-14-2023, 07:31 AM   #13
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IMO this one isn't close at all.

If you liked all the pieces, you could maybe argue that package for Terry only.

But not for adding Zibenejad and Samuelsson...no way.

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Old 12-14-2023, 08:14 AM   #14
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OK rejected.
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