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Old 02-19-2009, 12:03 AM   #1
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Things are getting worst by the day at Canada's favorite vacation spot, so bad experts are claiming civil war...unreal the power of drugs and money.

"A shootout in a border city that leaves five alleged drug traffickers sprawled dead on the street and seven police wounded. A police chief and his bodyguards gunned down outside his house in another border city. Four bridges into the United States shut down by protesters who want the military out of their towns and who officials say are backed by narcotraffickers. That was Mexico on Tuesday"

"Every day, newspapers and the airwaves are filled with stories and images of beheadings and other gruesome killings. Wednesday's front page on Mexico City's La Prensa carried a large banner headline that simply said "Hysteria!" The entire page was devoted to photos of bloody bodies and grim-faced soldiers."

Speaking on a news show a few weeks ago, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich called it a civil war. Birns agrees.
"Of course it's a civil war, but that only touches the violence of it," he said Wednesday. "It's also a civic conflict, as an increasing number of people look upon the law and democratic values as something that can be violated."

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Old 02-19-2009, 12:08 AM   #2
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Hell yeah. This can only lead to cheaper Tijuana hookers, and a better deal on Yucatan Peninsula blow.

In non jokersterness, since when is ANYTHING said by Newt Gingrich worth paying attention to? Dude, it's Mexico. Nothing in this story is new, nothing is out of the ordinary. They'll continue their cycle of violence, corruption and clean up as always.

Not trying to be an ass, just saying. Yeah, Mexico bites it to live in. Whatever.
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Old 02-19-2009, 09:18 AM   #3
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Life imitating art? Seems like a plot out of the Ghost Recon:Advanced warfighter series
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Old 02-19-2009, 09:21 AM   #4
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The problem with Mexico is - too many Mexicans!
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Old 02-19-2009, 09:31 AM   #5
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So a last minute trip to Mexico for Spring Break will be $50?
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Old 02-19-2009, 09:38 AM   #6
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Mexico has more regionalism than either Canada or the U.S. Certain states in Mexico might as well be different countries.

I went to Oaxaca a few years ago and it felt like a 3rd world junta. We even had our bus boarded by armed soldiers and had to show our passports. The driver appeared to pay some kind of bribe to them as well. But then you go to a place like Cancun, and you might as well be in Miami or something.
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Wouldn't a civil war be the people versus the government? This appears to be the government versus the drug traffickers with the people caught in the middle.

I've been down to Puerto Vallarta and it was quite nice, with no signs of violence or anything (that I saw), but I've heard that the northern part of Mexico near the U.S. can be very very rough, and that's where most of the trouble is. I heard there's like 4000 murders a year in that area.
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Wouldn't a civil war be the people versus the government? This appears to be the government versus the drug traffickers with the people caught in the middle.

I've been down to Puerto Vallarta and it was quite nice, with no signs of violence or anything (that I saw), but I've heard that the northern part of Mexico near the U.S. can be very very rough, and that's where most of the trouble is. I heard there's like 4000 murders a year in that area.
A civil war is factional or sectarian violence/conflict within a single national entity. Probably has to explode into open war to fully qualify as a civil war, I guess Mexico is close to that point.
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Is it wrong that my first thought was "How is this going to affect my trip to Mexico this spring?"
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Is it wrong that my first thought was "How is this going to affect my trip to Mexico this spring?"
It probably won't if you stay in the tourist areas.

Many parts of Mexico have been in a pseudo state of war for several years, yet most people don't notice. It's like Russia... most people in Moscow probably don't notice they have a war going on in their own borders.
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Is it wrong that my first thought was "How is this going to affect my trip to Mexico this spring?"
No. Why else should you care about Mexico?

The first things that popped into my mind was how this might cause the prices at Taco Bell to spiral out of control and what affect it might have on Manny Fernandez's chances at playing in the Olympics.
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I hope Jorge Hrdina's family is safe!
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Hope my cacuasian brother is ok, he lives in Monterray.

I SMSd him to watch out for the corrupt Federales, also known as La Hermandad
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Wow, criminals down there mean buisness. Not like the pansy gang wars in Calgary

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,487911,00.html
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Interesting article. It'll be very scary is the 50 Cals sniper rifles are making their way across the border
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I am more afraid of the "Light Anti Tank (LAW) rocket."

I dont think my mini sports car could take one of those, I better get out of the drug game before its too late
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