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Old 10-19-2007, 11:43 AM   #1
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http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/f...ccccf7&k=76096

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OTTAWA -- The Copyright Board of Canada has approved new taxes on digital MP3 music files - at least for files that are downloaded legally.
The tariffs, to be charged to iTunes and other companies that distribute music over the Internet, adds three cents to the cost of individual songs that now sell for about 99 cents, and 1.5 cents per track for downloaded albums.

Yay, yet another tax with the monies going nowhere. Isn't the fund of money from the blank cd and hdd levy still at a somewhat enormous sum that isn't going back to the artists?

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And they are retroactive to 1996, when Canada's music industry first began pushing for tariffs on transmitted music files.
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More reasons for people to download songs illegally.
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Old 10-19-2007, 11:45 AM   #3
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Yay, yet another tax with the monies going nowhere. Isn't the fund of money from the blank cd and hdd levy still at a somewhat enormous sum that isn't going back to the artists?

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this is good though. It means that the government will most likely tell them to screw off when it comes to making it illegal. One of the reason downloading is legal right now is the tax on blank cds/etc.
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This should curb illegal downloading even more. Ha! Why do they keep punishing the people who are following the rules?
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Old 10-19-2007, 11:58 AM   #5
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Why are they taxing legally purchased music? Time to boycott a service I never have used - except for free podcast downloads
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I'm for charging that extra half a cent... all for it!
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Old 10-19-2007, 01:03 PM   #7
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I can't wait for the taxes on taxes!!!
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More reasons for people to download songs illegally.
Rather more reason to download free versions of songs off p2p networks, which hasn't been demonstrated as illegal in Canada yet.
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Old 10-19-2007, 02:31 PM   #9
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Rather more reason to download free versions of songs off p2p networks, which hasn't been demonstrated as illegal in Canada yet.
have they even said anything about torrenting? that's how i get all my music now (among many other things)
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Old 10-19-2007, 05:29 PM   #10
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Nothing, at this point it's "legal" (meaning it hasn't been tested in court, but if they haven't tested it yet is it because they know they'd lose?).
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Old 10-19-2007, 05:51 PM   #11
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who pays for music anymore? it's 2007! free music is more readily available than drinkin water!
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Rather more reason to download free versions of songs off p2p networks, which hasn't been demonstrated as illegal in Canada yet.
Good point.
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who pays for music anymore? it's 2007! free music is more readily available than drinkin water!
No kidding.

And if the music industry was smart....they'd start some sort of 'free' ad-supported service....where you can download the songs as mp3 and do with them as you please.
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Nothing, at this point it's "legal" (meaning it hasn't been tested in court, but if they haven't tested it yet is it because they know they'd lose?).
Yeah, it has been tested in Canadian court.
In a Supreme Court case it was ruled that libraries putting photocopiers in was not infringing copyrights.
Then the Copyright Board declared downloading for personal use was not infringing.
Then, in a Federal court case where CRIA was attempting to force Canadian ISPs to reveal the names of 29 users who were sharing files, Justice von Finckenstein denied the request saying if putting photocopiers in libraries was not infringing, then putting mp3s in a shared directory was not infinging.

So it has been tested in a number of cases.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/in...ing_music.html

Interesting, Justice von Finckenstein is now head of the CRTC.
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Old 10-19-2007, 06:55 PM   #15
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I remember reading about the ISP case, but I didn't remember reading about the judgment.

That makes more sense I guess, if downloading is legal, and the levy on CDs and MP3 players is there, then a levy on individual downloads is somewhat consistent, they figure the levy pays for the future sharing of the song? Why not a levy on CD's as well then?
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