08-16-2024, 06:18 PM
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Ewwww boy....
That dude is clueless .
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08-16-2024, 06:24 PM
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All I can get
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Thoughts and prayers to the Carolina Hurricanes family.
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08-16-2024, 06:29 PM
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Didn't Tyler Dellow formerly have an account on these forums and once claimed that Ty Conklin (or maybe it was some other scrub Oilers goalie, my memory is hazy on this) was statistically better than Martin Brodeur?
Or am I thinking about somebody else?
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08-16-2024, 06:36 PM
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Isn't this Mudcrutch?
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08-16-2024, 06:49 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Wastedyouth
Ewwww boy....
That dude is clueless .
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Haven't followed him since the mudcrutch days but he was an absolute slaves to the numbers back when. Obviously he won't be calling the shots in Carolina and will be insulated with hockey people and will be the CBA-Cap guy, a perfect role for him.
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08-16-2024, 06:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarchHare
Didn't Tyler Dellow formerly have an account on these forums and once claimed that Ty Conklin (or maybe it was some other scrub Oilers goalie, my memory is hazy on this) was statistically better than Martin Brodeur?
Or am I thinking about somebody else?
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Pretty sure that was him. And it was an asinine argument. But I think more than a few people have posited that Brodeur really was more of a product of the system in front of him than people like to admit.
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08-16-2024, 07:00 PM
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Appealing my suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarchHare
Didn't Tyler Dellow formerly have an account on these forums and once claimed that Ty Conklin (or maybe it was some other scrub Oilers goalie, my memory is hazy on this) was statistically better than Martin Brodeur?
Or am I thinking about somebody else?
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Was it Deelow or Mudcrutch 79?
Conklin's even strength save percentage is better than Brodeur, hence he's a better goaltender!
No wonder New Jersey was sunk by their goaltending if he was over there.
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Last edited by Sylvanfan; 08-16-2024 at 07:02 PM.
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08-16-2024, 07:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarchHare
Didn't Tyler Dellow formerly have an account on these forums and once claimed that Ty Conklin (or maybe it was some other scrub Oilers goalie, my memory is hazy on this) was statistically better than Martin Brodeur?
Or am I thinking about somebody else?
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Can someone please find the quote?
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08-16-2024, 07:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarchHare
Didn't Tyler Dellow formerly have an account on these forums and once claimed that Ty Conklin (or maybe it was some other scrub Oilers goalie, my memory is hazy on this) was statistically better than Martin Brodeur?
Or am I thinking about somebody else?
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And it wasn't just Conklin he would do that with. He could take practically any Oilers player and use statistical trickery for why that player was better than other players. He actually turned me off of fancy stats for a long time because he continuously showed how they can be used to trick people.
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08-16-2024, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BigThief
Haven't followed him since the mudcrutch days but he was an absolute slaves to the numbers back when. Obviously he won't be calling the shots in Carolina and will be insulated with hockey people and will be the CBA-Cap guy, a perfect role for him.
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As opposed to a “slave” for the “this worked before so this will always work” mentality? I don’t know who this person is.
Great teams innovate, mediocre teams imitate, and poor teams are stuck in their old world mentality.
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08-16-2024, 07:16 PM
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First Line Centre
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Is that what I said?
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08-16-2024, 07:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly
Can someone please find the quote?
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https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showth...221#post223221
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It's entirely possible that Conklin isn't better than Brodeur, but it's also possible that he is. The data from last year suggests that he's in the same ballpark at ES.
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08-16-2024, 07:17 PM
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Appealing my suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
And it wasn't just Conklin he would do that with. He could take practically any Oilers player and use statistical trickery for why that player was better than other players. He actually turned me off of fancy stats for a long time because he continuously showed how they can be used to trick people.
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He used any stat he could find to justify his case that the Oilers were a perennial contender done in by luck.
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08-16-2024, 07:20 PM
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Congrats to the New Jersey Devils for unloading dgibb10 on someone else.
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08-16-2024, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BigThief
Is that what I said?
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No, that’s why I used a question mark.
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08-16-2024, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by getbak
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Seems like someone I would love to have a conversation with, aside from using Oiler nicknames and passive aggressively disparaging the Flames. Keep in mind that was 20 years ago, and there has been a great advancement in data availability since then.
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08-16-2024, 07:46 PM
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Are the Canes trolling CP?
This guy was hilariously off the mark and none of his predictions came true.
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08-16-2024, 07:51 PM
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Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
Are the Canes trolling CP?
This guy was hilariously off the mark and none of his predictions came true.
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I have no doubt he is good with numbers as he has stuck around in pro hockey for a bit now. I have to assume that he is a little more objective and realistic now that his job isn't trolling a Flames message board. Either that, or Eric Tulsky just wants a hype guy who can make all his moves look great, and just done in by bad luck if they don't work out.
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08-16-2024, 07:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
Are the Canes trolling CP?
This guy was hilariously off the mark and none of his predictions came true.
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Or did data availability advance in 20 years and arguments develop? The quoted post shows discussion of the variability in PKSV% Y/Y, pretty advanced thinking at the time.
It’s not some has-been like Stan Bowman making the hire. It’s Eric Tulsky.
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