Israel declares war on Hamas

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by GGG

They aren’t. Go read page 37, article 6. It only applies to booby traps.

The stuff around targeting and proportionality applies to all of the device types.

They are, you’re confused because you’re citing Protocol II, which was amended. Israel is a signatory of Amended Protocol II, which (now Article 7) of is below:

Article 7
Prohibitions on the use of booby-traps and other devices

1. Without prejudice to the rules of international law applicable in armed conflict relating to treachery and perfidy, it is prohibited in all circumstances to use booby-traps and other devices which are in any way attached to or associated with:
(a) internationally recognized protective emblems, signs or signals;
(b) sick, wounded or dead persons;
(c) burial or cremation sites or graves;
(d) medical facilities, medical equipment, medical supplies or medical transportation;
(e) children's toys or other portable objects or products specially designed for the feeding, health, hygiene, clothing or education of children;
(f) food or drink;
(g) kitchen utensils or appliances except in military establishments, military locations or military supply depots;
(h) objects clearly of a religious nature;
(i) historic monuments, works of art or places of worship which constitute the cultural or spiritual heritage of peoples; or
(j) animals or their carcasses.

2. It is prohibited to use booby-traps or other devices in the form of apparently harmless portable objects which are specifically designed and constructed to contain explosive material.

3. Without prejudice to the provisions of Article 3, it is prohibited to use weapons to which this Article applies in any city, town, village or other area containing a similar concentration of civilians in which combat between ground forces is not taking place or does not appear to be imminent, unless either:
(a) they are placed on or in the close vicinity of a military objective; or
(b) measures are taken to protect civilians from their effects, for example, the posting of warning sentries, the issuing of warnings or the provision of fences.

https://geneva-s3.unoda.org/static-u...TOCOL%2BII.pdf

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

But you don’t know because we don’t have numbers.

Why wager on something you don’t know other than to just reveal an implicit bias?

Maybe members of this criminal terrorist organization were carefree about how they handled the new ultra-high-security communication devices assigned to them, and left them lying around all over the place, lent them to children, neighbours, friends, etc. But I doubt it.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

They are, you’re confused because you’re citing Protocol II, which was amended. Israel is a signatory of Amended Protocol II, which (now Article 7) of is below:



https://geneva-s3.unoda.org/static-u...TOCOL%2BII.pdf

Thanks looks like it was illegal.

[afc wimbledon]

The get out clause for the 'booby trap' you guys are talking about is Israel will rightfully claim these weren't booby traps, just a legitimate attempt to disrupt Hezbollah's communications network, the US and everyone else has been using cell phone signals to kill people for years now and this is really no different

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

The get out clause for the 'booby trap' you guys are talking about is Israel will rightfully claim these weren't booby traps, just a legitimate attempt to disrupt Hezbollah's communications network, the US and everyone else has been using cell phone signals to kill people for years now and this is really no different

Well, no, that’s absurd, because that reason doesn’t actually absolve them from anything and that’s not a “rightful” claim at all as the laws don’t have exceptions for “legitimate attempts to disrupt communication networks” or whatever.

What they’ll actually do is what they are already doing, which is not claiming responsibility for it and not caring if it’s illegal or not.

[chubeyr1]

Anyone have any proof Israel did this?

Pagers and Walkie Talkie attack?

Could just be Hezbollas cheaping out on communication equipment.

Bad manufacturer!

If you don’t have proof why discuss this?