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Originally Posted by Kobatuzzied
I find it hard to believe you can't tell the difference between 1080 lines of resolution and 480 lines of resolution on a regular dvd.
Can you see the difference between 240 lines of resolution on VHS and the 480 on the dvd?
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If you’re going to quote me please at least read what I wrote... Not once did I claim I see no difference, in fact I specifically said that in a side by side comparison you would see a difference...
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Originally Posted by greerb
Actually DVD maxes out at 480i/p
HD-DVD video compared to DVD is nignt and day. If one has the TV for it it is a no brainer. Kinda like tose who have HDTV and still do not subsribe to HDTV with thier provider.
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Yes I can see the difference between S-video VHS and component cable DVD set ups as well... My entire point is about questioning the need for HD. Ultimately any new technology, in this case either Blu-Ray or HD-DVD is going to be successful based on the public needing or wanting the new technology. As I said early I think a good majority of the population has not yet bothered to set up their DVD viewing optimally, they use RCA cables or S-video hell some still have a square TV and purchase full screen DVD's... a good majority of people can get an very good viewing experience by simply investing a couple hundred dollars in their DVD setups and not thousands... When we went from VHS to DVD there was a myriad of reasons for it - picture quality was only one of many that included never seen before and very cool special features (years later we still buy DVD's for their special feature content - many of us own multiple copies of the same movie for that very reason) DVD's had multiple audio tracks and subtitles in 3 or 4 languages as well as information or trivia sub-titles, Scene selection and high quality sound and of course never having to "be kind and rewind" again... plus it was plug and play you could get most of those benefits by simply buying the DVD player... and IF you wanted to get the rest you could upgrade other components at your leisure or as your budget allowed. The step up from DVD to HD offers a lot less (in most peoples minds, right or wrong, all it offers is better picture quality) yet it demands you upgrade alot if not all of your home theater in order to realize that benefit. There are many people including myself that are looking at their DVD picture and thinking (when the source material is actually the best it can be) it is just not needed (and I'm sorry but in those pictures Human Torch linked - I own King Kong and at no point is he and the girl fuzzy black and tan blobs, those pictures do not represent my DVD setup at all) that said IMHO who cares if I can't clearly count the wrinkles on Dumbledorfs face. So since a large majority of people have still not bothered to upgrade their DVD set up so that they get the best picture possible out of it they simply will continue to rent and buy DVD's and have no interest in a better picture, if they did they would have ditched the RCA cables years ago. Couple that with the fact that DVD's are released daily that have transfers way below 480 lines of resolution and that it seems like companies don't use the existing technology to its fullest potential anyway, why would I trust that they will do so for HD movies... they made all the same promises with DVD's release and now regularly “cash cow” releases with little regard for sound or picture quality and few if any quality special features...
I think everything I have said explains why HD-DVD has dropped its expected total player sales for the year from 1.8 million in North America to only 1 million and why they have only 300,000 units sold so far and I will say again Bluray really has only 100,000 players sold because counting 1.4 million PS3's is not a good representation of people that went out to get a Blu-ray player, many don't even know its a blu-ray player and I'd say a but load more simply wanted a PS3, the fact that it was blu-ray player is ok, but not something they would have bought separately, its like a free gift, just because you take it doesn't mean you like it, want it or support it - it was free.
I understand some people here have set their priorities to include a HD picture and there is nothing wrong with that, your passionate about it and that’s fine, I'm just saying I think both formats have a good chance of failing or taking a very long time to finally become something that’s mainstream... I wouldn't throw out your DVD player just yet.
At any rate I’m done ranting about this… if you want a HD player go nuts, if you think I a ###### for thinking it’s a complete waste of money and that it is being spoon fed to us as a “need” by large companies trying to stop their bottom dollar hemoraging due to piracy.