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Old 10-30-2025, 10:59 AM   #126
Mean Mr. Mustard
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Originally Posted by GullFoss View Post
Just to be clear, my position is that an intoxicated person inappropriately touching someone else can be attributed as a "lapse of judgement with immediate regret". Also of note, if the 16 yo was okay with it, it's more of a grey area because the issue in part becomes whether or not she's allowed to consent and whether Kesler knew she was 16 or not.

I saw something similar at a gentlemen's club just last week where the guy got a little handsy and the dancer had to be like "no touching" and the gentleman got reprimanded and apologized. And then people moved on. No one seemed traumatized or severely violated. I'm not 100% sure as I didn't ask the dancer, but I'm going back to blondies tmrw, so can ask her if she's working.

I'm not advocating that he should be excused under the law, but it's a misdemeanor charge for forth degree assault for a reason. The law is the law. And the law implies a fourth degree assault is less bad than a third degree assault. And a third degree assault is less bad than second degree assault. And second degree assault is less bad than first degree assault. Fifth degree sexual assault is probably wanking in front people or being a Franky flasher or mooning people out the window of a vehicle. It's less bad than fourth degree.

So the idea of this going to trial seems absurd to me when he probably just plead out and apologize or do an online course.
Sorry but what the #### are you taking about. First he was 40 at the time it happened... if he is touching a teenager it is really ####ing gross at baseline. I don't care if he thought that she was 17 or 18... doesn't matter to me. He touched a ####ing child in a sexual manner.

As for going to a "gentleman's club" (cool by the way), seems like a different conversation and frankly that is also sexual assault in my books. If you have uninvited sexual contact with someone it is sexual assault and that is fully unacceptable in my view at least - even if he was reprimanded.

You come off as a creep and someone I would warn people not to be around.
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