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Originally Posted by blender
I don't think you are a wingnut, but you do sound like one.
You make it an all or nothing binary argument. Not all indigenous groups are against pipelines. Some support them and support has started popping up since the orange administration.
You have an opinion about about how this scenario will play out. You may be correct, but most likely you will be wrong. Either way, one man's opinion is no reason to act irresponsibly.
Some people who support pipelines are against them in certain places. I have a close friend who is a CEO of a large pipeline corporation. He would disagree with you even though his business is to move oil and he wants to see a more pipeline-friendly regime in this country. He just also happens to have respect for the natural environment and the rights and traditions of the people who were here first. Its about building concensus and finding solutions to problems, not just dropping the hammer and forcing people to accept things they don't want, even if they are wrong. That's what got us in this mess in the first place.
Honestly, you've been making this same argument for years; it's not really a Trump thing for you.
And to be clear, I get it. I understand what you are saying, and why you are saying it. Like you said, we disagree, but I feel that you are wrong in the way you would have your ideas implemented moreso than the ideas themselves.
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Fair enough. What about this idea: do what I’m saying on the sorta “bull it through” approach with emergency legislation and sans consultation; but then just put it in the same right of way as the TMX expansion (as much as possible, there could be a few areas on the route where there will need to be some slight deviations). Follow the same environmental conditions and respect for previous consultation requests as the TMX expansion that just finished. Like the last consultation is pretty damn fresh and probably involves largely the exact same people.
That way you know you have more or less followed strict environmental guidelines and impacted parties requests as reasonably as possible given the urgency of the infrastructure. Again I think the port of Vancouver and/or dock / export infrastructure on the coast might need upgrading as well. Not too sure about that side of things and might kill the idea.
Concurrent with above you yes/ also pass emergency legislation to kickstart other economic drivers and industry supports that can be sold to alternative markets like Europe and Asia.
Basically go ham trying to diversify the whole economy but expand the pipeline as well.