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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
We disagree, all good. Nobody who wants this country to have an economic future for their kids or future generations is a “wingnut”. The pendulum has swung too far to favour environmentalists and indigenous groups because guess what? We don’t need to consult them because I’ll tell you what they say- they don’t want it. They strongly oppose it. They will not have pipelines. So what, the 40 million Canadians get ####ed because of the desires of a few?
Moreover, personally I think this is a super critical juncture in this nation’s history. I believe our sovereignty is at stake. The US strategy here is to crush us economically and then come in and say hey, join us, and you won’t have economic pain. In that context, how do indigenous think it’s going to be after being taken over by the USA? Will the billions in reconciliation transferred to Canadian First Nations continue with a country that has no economy or worse doesn’t even exist? Hell, the FN groups should be begging for this to be built.
Honestly, the ones who sound like wingnuts are the ones still thinking that Canadian environmental and oil and gas regulatory frameworks that got us into this disaster are the perfect recipe to get us out of it. Yeah let’s go poll people who hate pipelines to see if they’ll let us have an economic future.
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I don't think you are a wingnut, but you do sound like one.
You make it an all or nothing binary argument. Not all indigenous groups are against pipelines. Some support them and support has started popping up since the orange administration.
You have an opinion about about how this scenario will play out. You may be correct, but most likely you will be wrong. Either way, one man's opinion is no reason to act irresponsibly.
Some people who support pipelines are against them in certain places. I have a close friend who is a CEO of a large pipeline corporation. He would disagree with you even though his business is to move oil and he wants to see a more pipeline-friendly regime in this country. He just also happens to have respect for the natural environment and the rights and traditions of the people who were here first. Its about building concensus and finding solutions to problems, not just dropping the hammer and forcing people to accept things they don't want, even if they are wrong. That's what got us in this mess in the first place.
Honestly, you've been making this same argument for years; it's not really a Trump thing for you.
And to be clear, I get it. I understand what you are saying, and why you are saying it. Like you said, we disagree, but I feel that you are wrong in the way you would have your ideas implemented moreso than the ideas themselves.