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Originally Posted by Sliver
Okay, so - in your mind - Gaza is a "de facto" nation. So not a real nation, but close enough if we're going to say war is nation to nation and the humans I hate need to be killed and also must be a nation according to the definition I made up. Fair enough, I guess.
Also - again, according to the definition I made up - the aggressor [de facto] nation is responsible for everything bad that happens after the original aggression regardless of proportionality. Let's ignore the abject stupidity of such a statement since a nuclear holocaust would be permissible for the minorist of infractions nation to nation under this bone headed and ridiculous definition.
So when I looked at the Israel and Gaza situation, I think Israel is actually the aggressor:
Now, obviously I get you have an impenetrable forcefield of indoctrination and misinformation preventing you from objectively analysing facts; however, at the very least maybe we can agree there is enough uncertainty over who started the Israel/Gaza conflict that allowing absolute destruction and human eradication of Gaza should perhaps be tempered with some empathy and humanity? lol, just kidding. Let's kill em all!!!1!1!!
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There's one fundamental thing here that needs to be addressed. You view Oct 7th as a one-off attack that, although horrible, happened long ago and is over. And what Israel is doing, in your opinion, is an overzealous revenge for the crime that maybe was brutal, but is a thing of the past and it's high time for the punishment to stop.
That's factually incorrect view. The Oct 7th attack is an ongoing situation because Gazans are still holding the hostages. If they had released the hostages and Israel kept bombing them as mere punishment, you might have had a point about unproportional response and over-the-top punishment. But as long, as hostages are there, it's an ongoing war, not a one-sided beating.