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Originally Posted by nfotiu
So it made it a 1v1 and Biden beat Bernie substantially.
There sure are a lot of progressives who like to come in these post loss threads to do an "I told you so" victory lap and relishing the Harris loss.
And yet we're supposed to believe that progressives weren't sitting this election out (or voting Trump) to make a point?
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What an insane thing to suggest. Progressives are criticizing the Democratic party because they did not want Trump to win, kept telling the centrist types that the warning signs were there, and were subsequently told to essentially #### off and shut up by people like you.
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
The reason the Dem's are center right is the same reason that Labour in the UK has gone center, because every time they try moving left they get utterly buggered in the election.
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Again, this isn't supported by any evidence. Biden ran a much more progressive campaign than Harris or Hillary did and won. Progressive ballot measures also outperformed Harris substantially. AOC won outperformed Harris in her district.
The Dems ran a campaign where they went full hawk on foreign policy and tried to appeal to neocons, and guess what? They got utterly buggered.
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Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
I agree with what you're saying. I've been trying to stay away from this thread to let the temperature settle down and some of the emotion burn off. The progressive left made a conscious decision to not vote (again) and that really hurt the Dems (wasn't the only reason, but was a big reason). They aren't taking responsibility for this action but are instead trying to dunk on the Dems for not going full Thelma and Louise and driving the whole party off the cliff to appease them.
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This was the easiest prediction to make about this election.
https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...ostcount=23906
Do you have source for this Lanny, or this your usual "I live in America and understand the electorate better than you dumb Canadians," talking out of your ass schtick?
The Democrats went after the neocon vote and got crushed for it. That's not dunking on them. It's a valid criticism of the campaign and most of us were saying it was stupid move before the election. Republicans, when faced with the choice of Republican or Republican-lite, are always going to vote for actual Republicans.
If elections are won on the margins and with voter turnout, why would you go after a segment you are unlikely to capture instead of pumping up your own base? It was mind-blowingly stupid and the only reason I can think as to why they went this route is because that was the marching orders given to them by their wealthiest donors.