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Originally Posted by ThePrince

So what is representative of the IDF as a whole?

When they assassinate journalists?

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/09/05/m...stigation-intl

When they throw civilians off of roofs in the West Bank?

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/09/20/m...bank-roof-intl

When they straight up murder civilians?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ans-west-bank/

Can you tell me what does represent the IDF as a whole? Because I’ve never seen them be anything other than bloodthirsty monsters. How many examples of “bad apples” does there need to be before people like you realize that it’s systemic within the IDF?

I haven't had the time for a couple of days to really write a thought-out response, so apologies for the wait. The logic you're using is simply false. Let's apply it to Canada. Canada has murderers, and rapists therefore all Canadians should be treated as rapists and murderers. That's ridiculous. Why because there's also the legal system, and a society that's against it.

As far as the IDFs character it doesn't go out and murder civilians for the sake of murdering civilians no matter how many times you try to spin it that way. Showing cases where something went wrong.

How do I know the character of the IDF? I had my dad serve there, and I have cousins serving there, as well as friends. They're all great people, and they would share stories as well. My dad was in the response squad to chemical and biological weapon attacks, but half of his reservist duty was guard duty. They had very strict instructions regarding any discharge of a weapon. He didn't discharge his weapon once outside of training while on duty.