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Originally Posted by TOfan
Seems a bit rich to me. Would love the Flames to get this type of package but this smacks of a GM panicking to save his job, which could be the case.
I think a first and two seconds (Hamilton and Hamonic) packages are a better comp……if the Flames could get two firsts alone, that might be enough.
I do think though that if there is a deal to be had between the two teams, it’s likely to include a prospect. Looking at Conroy’s deals to date he seems to prioritize a mix of picks and prospects or underutilized assets. Thinking about the Lindholm, Tanev and Hanifin deals. Had Kalyev not been injured perhaps that would have been of interest.
It is an interesting proposal though. If the Kings get off to a rough start (entirely plausible) maybe Blake does get aggressive in trying to save the season or his job, or both.
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True. The Hamilton and Hamonic packages are probably a more realistic target. A couple differences I would say make the argument for Andersson returning a slightly larger number of picks (but probably not as much as I first proposed). When Hamilton was traded, it was at the draft when picks are at their highest value. And he was traded for 15th overall, 45th overall and 52nd overall. Those 3 picks carry more value at that moment when they are known in the ranking than a trade during the season and the draft positions are unknown. I think if Hamilton had been traded by the bruins at the beginning of the previous season, they would have gotten much more than a 1st round pick and two 2nd round picks. Hamilton was a younger player than Andersson is now so it might even it out a bit.
As for the Hamonic trade… I would simply argue Andersson is considered a more valuable player than Hamonic ever was. Both have/had very reasonable cap hits. But I think Andersson is considered a clear top 2/3 defenceman who brings good offence, defence and leadership. Harmonic was considered a good #4 defenceman with good defence and leadership but not much offence.
You’re right that Conroy does seem to target prospects in his trades rather than all picks. In this circumstance, because I am not a big fan of LA’s prospects (aside from the Clarke), I would rather not dilute the quality of picks in the trade and focus on a pick-heavy trade.
I’ll split the difference on my trade proposal by adjusting the conditional 1st round pick.
To LA:
Andersson
To Calgary:
2025 1st round pick (lottery protected)
2025 2nd round pick
2025 3rd round pick
Conditional 2026 1st round pick (becomes a 2nd + 4th round pick if LA does not make it past the 2nd round of the playoffs in 2026)
That makes it so the most the trade could return is a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick in 2025 + a late 1st round pick in 2026 (at best 29th overall).