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Originally Posted by ResAlien
And who is the arbiter of what’s a lie or not? Boy the descent into “I crave authoritarianism” when you think it stops the other guy is quite a cliff.
Edit: this might be a good time for people to give themselves a refresher on what “free speech” means as well.
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As others have pointed out, there are laws against defamation, and there are also laws against inciting violence. Fraud is also a crime. So free speech absolutism is already not a thing and never has been, regardless of what the free speech absolutists would have you believe.
Like it or not, there is a line drawn somewhere (even in the most free societies) between allowed speech and disallowed speech. I think it should be drawn in a slightly different place from where it is now. Things like climate change, for example, (where there are entire mountain ranges of peer reviewed scientific journals backing the conclusion that climate change is real and due to human activities), should not be open to random ####wits spreading confusion and uncertainty on the topic.
Same thing with the big lie, that the 2020 election was supposedly stolen. No elected official should be allowed to spread that kind of rumor without providing evidence to back it up; continuing to spread that lie should be an complete disqualifier from ever running for office again.
As for the Barfleson segment regarding the debate, the problems I have with it are:
- saying Trump is a successful businessman, but failing to mention his 6 business bankruptcies and fraudulent charity and "university"
- saying he's a really sharp guy, without giving evidence of it
- didn't ask why Trump wouldn't have prepared for this debate given its obvious importance
- didn't mention that Trump told most of the lies in the debate, including the most egregious ones (hence the need for moderator fact checks)
- didn't mention what relevance it has that Harris wasn't at the capitol during the Jan 6 attack (hint: none)
- making a definitive statement about someone ("she's an airhead") without preceding it with "I believe" or "I think".
- saying that she got the questions in advance when there is zero evidence that she actually did
So I'm not sure what the solution is to all this. But I sure as hell know that it can't simply be allowing ####wits like Tucker Barfleson continue to hypnotize the American people with his nonstop stream of horse####.