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It may not be what they are saying, but perhaps what they aren’t saying that Trump is. I think he skewered Clinton at the debates by bringing up NAFTA and she had a difficult time parrying it. Which is fascinating to me, because Trumpism (such as it is) differs greatly from free market capitalism in that way. Protectionism benefits domestic producers and punishes domestic consumers, for an aggregate loss. But it does redistribute income to these newly (I’d argue, artificially) created jobs. And people see and feel that. He also didn’t want to repeal the ACA, instead arguing to replace it. He didn’t want to raise the retirement age for SSI and Medicare. He was very non interventionist with respect to foreign policy. He didn’t speak much about the debt - an esoteric macroeconomic concept for most of the people we are discussing and not something they see and feel.
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All of this basically translates to "it pays to lie".
NAFTA and USMCA are almost identical.
He never had any intention of replacing the ACA. Simply saying "I'm gonna replace it and it's gonna be great" was all some people needed to hear I guess.
The world was just as chaotic while Trump was in office, it's just that there weren't high-profile conflicts such as Ukraine and Gaza happening at the time. You can be sure that Putin's decision to hold off on the invasion until after the 2020 election, and Netenyahu's decision to go scorched-earth in response to Oct 7, were both taken (among other reasons) with the intention of helping Trump's election chances and hurting Biden's.
People do feel budget deficits - it takes the form of inflation. But, alas, many people do not realize this.
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He made gains in every county on the Canadian border, even, but for Whatcom (WA).
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Not surprising considering they are rural counties. An increase in rural-urban divide is something we've been seeing in more places than just the US.
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I don’t believe the notion that these people turned from voting for Obama to Trump simply because of internet propaganda. The internet existed and had been widely adopted long before then.
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Now you're moving the goalposts. We were talking about a 60 year trend of non-college-educated workers moving toward the right, not just about one election cycle.
But I'd argue that the right-wing media ecosystem has become much more pervasive and well funded than it was in the 2012 election season.