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Originally Posted by fleury

Ok. Here's the thing. I just got an entry-level job and need a car instead of using the parents. After using mom and pop's 01 Camry and 02 Sebring, and though being a North American car lover myself, I really like what Toyota brings to the table - dependability. The advantage of North American used vehicles is that they can be had much cheaper which is also a consideration. So here's the thing, my mom has a friend who works at Toyota (who I don't know to trust or not), who can apparently get a good deal at his dealership. I'm using CP as a contingency plan though, so here are my requirements of a USED vehicle:

1) Dependability - meaning the less maintanance the better
2) Gas Consumption - again, the less, the better (so likely a 4 Cylinder)
3) Has to be a 2002 model or newer (but a bit of flexability here)
4) Has to be under 100,000KM's and under a $12,000 price tag on the road.
5) Sporty, Boxy, Old-man's car, I don't care...just something that is dependable is #1.

...basically, although I want used, I would like suggestions as to your experiences with certain Brands, Years or Models and some suggestions as to each.

I also like the Yaris for some odd reason and although I hate Honda's, I like the Element too.

Thanks guys (and gals).

Both the Civic and Echo will give you all of the above listed criteria at the price you are looking for with reasonable dependability. I know even at the Toyota dealership (in 2002) a 2000 echo was available in that price range including addons etc. Good luck, but from my experience staying away from north american cars is always a good idea.