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Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
Still see this as a bad deal, no way to spin it. The fact that Conroy accepted the ridiculous number of conditions is the part that makes this hurt the most. All control in this deal was/is in Vegas' court. For Christ sake, the only pick in this deal that holds no conditions is the one that goes to Philadelphia for retention! Las Vegas still has potential to trade a pick that they have already traded to us. Let that sink in. Conroy gave the Knights the ability to use the very pick he traded "the best available defenseman at the deadline" for to make another deal, which may result in another team getting a better deal than the Flames. I mean, what just happened?
I would have been happy if he came away with solid assets and not conditional ones. Even ones years out like these look they are going to be. The conditions are just batty and joke to be honest. The conditions weaken the Flames position at each turn, which is just poor value when you look at the whole deal. Flames retain, and don't get anything of value. No additional pick nor quality prospect. The primary return are conditional picks where Vegas gets opportunity to leverage those picks for greater return with the Flames receiving anything of value. The "prospect" returned would not make any prospect list of value as the player has already aged out. The "prospect" is 23 weeks younger than the guy he was traded for. That's not a prospect. That's not value. I really don't see how anyone could consider this anything but a terrible return and a young GM being worked over.
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The return is soft for sure.
But disagree on the conditions. In the end it's providing Vegas flexibility...but really doesn't hurt the return from the Flames side at all unless we are being impatient.
If Vegas doesn't trade the pick we have a 2025 with top 10 protection.
If Vegas trades the pick then we have a 2026 with no protection.
IMO both of those picks potentially have more value than the Vegas 2024 that could be 28-32 since it sounds like Vegas is loading up with the LTIR space they have.