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Originally Posted by traptor
You and another poster going after me instead of tangiably defending your position on the topic.
This is a manipulative fallacy called Ad hominem where you attack the person and not the argument.
All I have done is defend why I disagree with your opinion and defend my own by providing examples/lack thereof examples.
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You didn’t actually provide any examples, you asked others to provide examples but haven’t actually provided a single one that supports your position.
You also don’t seem to understand the UFA issue. Whether the Flames sign Hanifin and then trade him, or a team is allowed to talk to Hanifin’s agent and get confirmation that Hanifin would be willing to sign there at a price they’re willing to pay, both make his value equal to a player already signed to that contract (whatever it happens to be).So, “pending UFA” as a value detractor goes out the window. Doesn’t matter.
Can you provide a good example of a player like Hanifin moving and not getting back value similar to Holtz + a 1st? Because so far it looks like you’re either underrating Hanifin or overrating Holtz, and I’m genuinely curious what you’re basing this on.