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Originally Posted by Itse
It's kind of sad when people who are theoretically smart and do know their history better than this bend themselves in pretzels to support mass violence towards a mostly civilian population.
You know as well as I do that your original theory was nonsense and doesn't actually hold up. It's why I really just bother to show up in this thread to say that, but there's no real point in "debating" you.
The only thing left is to keep pointing out that this is nonsense, so that you don't accidentally think you "made a point".
No you didn't. You spewed nonsense because you don't want to give up an untenable position.
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You are inconsistent. You said, literally, that I have Ukranian blood on my hands, as I was citizen of Russia when the war has started. You said, that I no longer have the right to live not in the war zone. I actually have no problem with your take, quoted below. But if this is what you stand for, you have to be consistent. You said that it is perfectly legitimate to kill me, just because I live in Russia. The very same should be applied to Palestenian civilians:
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Originally Posted by Itse
You are, personally, supporting the Russian offensive with your taxes. You are not some innocent bystander in this, much as you would wish to be. Some of that Ukrainian blood is in your hands too.
Opinions are not magic. There is no meaningful difference between you and a Putin supporter, as long as both of you do your job quietly and pay your taxes. Your personal opinion does not make you any less a collaborator.
This attitude that people have with wars is much of the problem. You refuse to accept that your government has given another country every right to attack your country. You no longer have a right to not live in a war zone. If the Ukrainians bring the war to you, that's completely fair and also legal according to international law. That's what Putin has done to you. That's what those his police thugs are fighting for when they are putting down those anti-war demonstrations, they are fighting for the right of Ukrainians to attack you just as much as they are fighting
for the right of Russians to kill Ukrainians.
Yes you could theoretically be killed in a perfectly legitimate military operation just because you live in Russia. The odds are astronomically small because nobodu wants a nuclear war, but that risk is what your government has done to you.
And if Russians somehow think that supporting Putin harder is a way to keep you safe, well there's your problem right there.
The longer Russians think it's safer to be quiet, the more danger the whole world is in.
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