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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
I think it is important to recognise there is nothing Israel can do short of leaving the land completely, and I mean the whole of Israel, that will appease Hamas, the PLO and the Palestinians, Gazans dont want the West Bank, their ancestors never lived there, they want Haifa and Nazareth back, which is the end of Israel, they want the Jews to go back to Europe and nothing but that.
The idea that if Israel gives the West Bank back then Palestinians will happily give up the rest of their land is absurd, a free West Bank Palestine will be grimly poor, run by corrupt fundy morons who will explain their failures as all being Israel's fault, meanwhile Israel will be a rich land of wealth just across the border, Palestinians won't look at the rest of Muslim run middle east and see that all Islamic countries are massively poorer than their non Islamic counterparts, they will just see it as the fault of the Jews, that if they could just get the rest of Palestine back they would live like Muslims used to in the 14th century when Islam was rich powerful and dominated the world, that resentment will always be a tool for extremists
I think Israel has a moral obligation to try and give Palestinians some kind of freedom, a country of sorts, I think that will reduce to a degree the amount of violence it will face but it will never end it.
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The original plan of neighbouring Arab states wasn't even to create Palestinian state. The plan was for Jordan to take most of Israel to the Mediterranean, Egypt to take southern Israel, and Syria to take northern Israel, giving them another corridor to the sea. In that scenario, Israel was seen as David, and the Arab states as Goliath. The Arab countries tried to flip the script and reverse the underdog image by suggesting Palestinians were a separate nation deserving of their own state. They made them pawns. It was actually a really smart play in order to gain more sympathy in other parts of the world, but even if Israel ceased to exist, I don't think it would take long until the original plan was implemented.