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Originally Posted by Pointman
So, you believe that Palestinians and Israelis should be held to different standards. Then you complain that people treat Palestinians and Israelis differently. Feels like you need to choose one or another.
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No, I believe a democratic government that is viewed as positive and liberal as it is should be held to a higher standard than a terrorist organization. Though it’s on-brand that you believe “terrorist” is synonymous with “Palestinian.”
I feel like people should not choose one of the other, and should instead value innocent lives the same, Israeli or Palestinian.
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Originally Posted by Pointman
Cool. Do you agree, that Israel is entitled to treat Palestinian civilians the same way Hamas treats Israeli civilians? That is, kill them without a warning?
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No. In what world would I agree with that?
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Originally Posted by Pointman
Hamas are not merely terrorists. They are legitimately elected government. They are responsible for the whole Gaza
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Yeah, sure, they’re terrorists when people need to condemn anyone defending Palestinian civilians and an elected government when people need to criticize Palestinian civilians. I get it, you don’t need to quote the same post multiple times.
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
How do you explain the side that is behaving with some consideration for the lives of civilians drawing far more criticism in some quarters than the side with zero regard for civilians - including their own?
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One is a terrorist organization, the other is a liberal democracy, no?
In simple terms, if a child and an adult act like children, who would receive more criticism?
We can’t insist on Israel being recognized as so much better while pretending they aren’t then subject to much higher standards. That’s how the world works. If they have carte blanche to act just a little bit better than a terrorist organization, then they should be treated that way. If we’re to treat that government better, then the expectations are higher.
And, because someone is going to say it, holding Hamas to a lower standard excuses or justifies nothing. It’s simply recognizing that they are a terrorist organization and will do what terrorist organizations do, which is horrific and expected.