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Old 07-31-2023, 05:26 AM   #7482
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Originally Posted by Wormius View Post
It’s a pretty stupid, dim-witted view that negotiating with another leader to get deals made makes you their lapdog.
The CPC supporters are aggrieved because they think that this effectively gives Trudeau a majority. It's nothing more than that.


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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan View Post
Yeah, it’s still pretty early. But the Abacus numbers at least support the idea of a short-term surge toward the CPC.

My prognostication (based on nothing in particular): This will turn out to be very much like the Alberta election we all just lived through in that it will turn on whether voters view this as a choice vs a referendum. If the CPC can persuade voters that the election is a referendum on the Trudeau government, the Liberals will lose. If Atlantic Canada is really tied, as Abacus suggests, CPC could win a majority.

The Liberals, on the other hand, need to cast this as a “choice” election, and (much like Danielle Smith was able to do) try to portray the CPC as an unpalatable choice vis a vis the median voter’s values. If they can do that they stand a chance of hanging on to a slim majority, but… that’s far from certain. I’m also guessing “Trudeau fatigue” creates some pretty strong headwinds for the incumbents.
From the perspective of chaos and teaching the CPC about how our system works, I think my hope is that the CPC gets a minority and the most seats, but the Liberals and NDP form a government. When PP doesn't get first crack as I'm sure they feel that they're entitled, it would just be so hilarious.

At the same time, I won't actually be voting for that, but I just want the comedy.
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