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Originally Posted by GirlySports
Why wear clothes at all?
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Go ahead and tell us.
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
Can't we look at this in an objective moral way? In a balance of harms view, there is much more harm caused to many more people by allowing trans-folk to participate in the current sporting categories defined by gender: you would have to add the comparative harm of disadvantaging all other athletes within that category.
It's not an elegant solution, but society is about compromises. We need independent sporting categories for people who have made the decision to transition. It's not perfect, but balance of harm here is pretty clear IMO.
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This doesn’t mesh with reality, though. You can’t just declare where the balance of harm lies without actually backing it up. There’s obviously room to find out where the balance is, but you haven’t found it here.
For example, based on your position, it’s be natural to assume that you think all people born biological men are better than all people born biological women in any sport where there is a sex divide. Regardless of age, build/other biological factors, or (in the case of trans people) the time/age of transition, you think all people born physically male have a distinct advantage over all people born physically female?
It also poses the question of how you then balance trans athletes within their category. If nobody born biologically male can complete against someone born biologically female, that means trans women can’t compete against trans men, so you split that as well. But the numbers of athletes with this split is going to be extremely low, are people supposed to compete in leagues comprising 5-6 other people instead of a few hundred? And at what point have you just made the original situation (trans women in cis men categories and trans men in cis women categories) worse for everyone?