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Originally Posted by Kev
I'm not sure how I am arguing with myself? My point was the same as a few others on here, that a person in the process of committing a crime shouldn't be allowed to receive compensation for injuries they sustain during the act of the crime. Sure, if the security and management went beyond the point that was legal, then yes maybe they should be charged.
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If they were kicking and punching the guy, don't you think they went beyond what was legal?
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Originally Posted by Kev
You guys make the shoplifter sound like the victim, it's like defending Jarkko Ruttuu beause he's been punched in the head after slu footing a guy after the whistle.
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Well, if they kicked his ass, he was the victim, even if he was shoplifting. You can bring up all the crazy scenarios (hockey games, fighting bulls), but they are irrelevant. The guy was beat up by a security guard and store manager for stealing razor blades.
Let's change the crime just a little bit and have someone speeding in the parking lot outside the mall. They are breaking the law so do you think it's okay if that security guard smashes out a couple headlights, or punches the driver in the face after the guy parks his car? He was committing a crime, so anything that happens to him is his own fault?
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Originally Posted by Kev
We're talking about private property, and a person committing a crime, a scenario they created, during which they got hurt, and recieved compensation. Is it any different on my property, or a store's, somebody owns it.
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Yes, it is different. It's not your property, it's a public place and he is shoplifting, not threatening anybody or assaulting anybody.