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Old 10-06-2022, 08:45 PM   #8407
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I've never really believed that nukes will ever be used again after its first use by the Americans but I'm starting to wonder now if the recent push in the west that Putin is likely to use nukes because he's being cornered is really the west setting the stage and planting the seeds for some sort of pre-emptive move on Russia? Just seems like the rhetoric around Russia being more likely now to use its nukes has been ramped up quite a bit over the last two weeks.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1578182142315532288
We should absolutely be concerned about a cornered Putin using nukes as he gets more cornered and desperate. There's no conspiracy there. There's not much rational about any of his moves so far, and a truly cornered Putin has only a few choices: Give up; Work out a compromise; tactically nuke Ukraine (which more than likely leads to a full scale nuclear war); launch a full scale nuclear attack; or get removed by his own country or in some kind of decapitation from the west (obviously this last one is not his choice).

Him winning this war without nukes doesn't seem like a realistic outcome anymore and neither does a surrender on his part. That leaves the realistic scenarios as being pretty terrifying for the world. As someone who hopes that his family gets to live out their life, I absolutely am in favor of any kind of successful pre-emptive strike that can end this, and hopefully that strike is just a non-nuclear one that gets rid of Putin.

This isn't a made up scenario of Iraq having WMDs. Putin has all the WMDs, and counting on him to value human life (russians and/or non-Russian) as the reason not use them seems very foolish and a bet that I'm not comfortable with.
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