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Old 09-30-2022, 12:50 PM   #8137
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No real disagreement with the rest, but I wish to point out that Serbia can't possibly agree to split country referendums under any circumstance, as it would require them to dispense of Kosovo and potentially surrounding territory. Possibly it would even open them up to worse #### internally. China also notably won't accept this (Taiwan, Hong Kong, Tibet, XinJiang, etc.) It's a confusing play politically because everyone knows it's a sham and even their "allies" (more, not-enemies) are telling them it's a ####ing stupid and pointless idea.
One of the rare "Tibet" mentions on CP! Yes, back in the 90's, I remember Tibetan organizations calling for a referendum within Chinese occupied Tibet (under the auspices of international groups), as a response to China's claim that Tibetans were happy and prosperous under Chicom rule. Of course, as you mentioned in your post, China never accepted this. Tibet like Ukraine, was a free and independent country until it was totally annexed in 1951. Even if "pseudo independent" or full independence is up for debate, at the very least, there were hardly any Chinese people in Tibet until their invasion. It was excellent that Chairman Mao noted this fact when discussing the planned invasion of Tibet, as this fact often stumps the average Chinese person when they try to intimidate and argue with us Tibetans on the history of Tibet. Mao said something along the lines of, Tibet being different than other invaded places, because there were hardly any Chinese in Tibet, just a diplomats, representatives and small community in the capital. They are always flustered in how to respond when you tell them that, how can we be part of China if most Tibetans had never even seen a Chinese person before? Ask any Tibetan from pre-1959 Tibet, you would be hard pressed to find a Chinese person living in Tibet, especially outside of their small enclave in the main city. How can you sign documents claiming a free country is yours, if none of your people even live there? How absurd! Anyways, thanks for the Tibet mention, and Slava Ukraini! We know what Ukraine is going through all too well.
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