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Old 07-20-2022, 12:01 PM   #172
Aarongavey
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Originally Posted by GioforPM View Post
Yes, he was around .85 PPG over the two previous seasons. Not terrible. Not 115 points good. Not 10.5 good. Which I'd lay even money on he will never approach again. Even other teams in a bidding war didn't give him 10.5.

Your example is flawed of course, since you are talking about a two-way player. Which Gaudreau was not accused of being in July 2021 (which he also turned around).

Your problem is you have magic GM thinking. Like Lou L would have seen the future and given Johnny Gaudreau $11M.
Nobody ever accused Neal or Brouwer of being two way players. Coleman is a two way player, which is why I did not include him. Brad backed up the brinks truck for mediocre 40 point guys when he signed Brouwer and Neal. I am saying that I would have been totally comfortable with Brad doing the same for Johnny.

For Neal and Brouwer, Brad doled out about 1.2% of the cap value for every 0.1 PPG that they had prior to signing the contract. The ratio is almost the same for both players. If he had done that for a player who had 0.88 PPG in 20/21 he would have had about 10.7% of the cap as his Gaudreau number, conveniently right in the 10-11 percent range that I think should have been his negotiating range.

If you took the PPG player from the previous 3 years, that would have been 12% of the cap (1.2% for every 0.1 PPG)

You make it seem like it was a crazy risk to sign a guy for his 29-36 year old years to a similar or lower percentage of the cap relative to production before the signing of the contract than two previous signings Brad did for guys for their 31-35 year old years and their 31-34 year old years.

I have long been on the record as saying I think the Flames should get a new GM. Regardless of whether the owners say win now, Brad burns through picks at a rate almost unseen in NHL history and definitely at a much higher rate than any previous Flames GM. Messing up Gaudreau is not even the reason I would like a new GM.

And my post said I would have offered 8-9 million. Anywhere in there I would have been comfortable. Not 11 Million. But you knew that.
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