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Old 06-30-2022, 07:52 AM   #5174
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger View Post
It’s not blind. It’s the opposite of blind. It’s evaluating their full resume and not just taking their most recent action and blindly ignoring their track record like you’re doing.

This isn’t cynicism. It’s reality. These people have a lot of red in their ledger. This is not redemption. It’s the bare minimum to save them from being pure scum. Not they’re just mostly scum.



Poor phrasing on my part. More like opportunism on their part.



It’s not demonizing, it’s evaluating their track record and behaviour. One good deed doesn’t wipe out a laundry list of terrible actions.

You don’t get to be cheered as a saviour when you start the fire that burns down the house but then decide to help clean up the ashes. The damage is done.



It’s definitely you seeing it as a binary choice. It’s recency bias. Sure it’s better late than never but it still isn’t good enough. These people aren’t heroes, they aren’t making great personal sacrifices and their actions don’t deserve our admiration.

At best they deserve an “it’s about goddamn time”. They’ve done the bare minimum. The least amount to gain a modicum of respect that until now they’d completely lost.
No one is calling them heros. They are saying they did a good thing.

Being unable to acknowledge that is seeing things too black and white. No one is 100% evil. If some KKK grand wizard saves my kid from getting hit by a bus - that KKK grand wizard did a good thing that can be acknowledged despite him being an overall terrible person.

People are complex. The worst person you know probably did something admirable today and the best you know probably did something bad. Being so polarized that you can't admit when someone you disagree with did something right is not a win for getting out of the over heated political mess the US is in (and some in Canada desperately want us to get to)
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