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Old 06-17-2022, 02:21 PM   #3533
powderjunkie
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Originally Posted by VilleN View Post
Well, you aren't right about Stone at all. And having too much talent to keep is a luxury, not a problem - see Tampa Bay. It's all beside the point anyways, my point is Canadian teams are at a significant disadvantage when it comes to signing and retaining players. I would argue it is the entire reason a Canadian team hasn't lifted the cup in nearly 30 years.
Really? We've established how rare it is for huge name guys to move as UFAs, and TOR got one of those big ~4 (Tavares/Panarin/Bobrovsky/Pietrangelo). It's also been established that paying your best players at UFA rates is unlikely to lead to cups (at least since the 8 yr limit).

Who have CAD teams struggled to retain? Karlsson and Stone - because OTT is/was a clown show. Dubas failing at RFA negotiations is the only other thing I can think of.



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Originally Posted by FanIn80 View Post
OK, this season has clouded my perception of his injury history... but is $9.5M good value for a PPG advanced stats darling? He's not even a center. He's also 30 years old, just had lower back surgery and still represents five more years of cap hit at that $9.5M. Should we offer Lindholm (who will be a 30 year-old center) $9.5M for his next contract?

(actually I could realistically see Lindholm getting $8-9M offers, but I would also argue that Lindholm is more valuable than Stone)

Anyway, fair point... I did think he was more injury-prone than he is.
Yes and yes.

Stone is the best 2-way winger since Hossa. He signed this deal right around the time he turned 27. He certainly wasn't an ironman in OTT, but he wasn't exactly injury-prone either - gp: 80 75 71 58 77. It may take until next spring for him to
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