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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
2010: Hall, Seguin, Gudbranson
2011: RNH, Landeskog, Huberdeau
2012: Yakupov, Murray, Galchenyuk
2013: Mackinnon, Barkov, Drouin
2014: Ekblad, Reinhart, Draisaitl
2015: McDavid, Eichel, Strome
2016: Matthews, Laine, Dubois
2017: Hischier, Patrick, Heiskanen
2018: Dahlin, Svechnikov, Kotkaniemi
2019: Hughes, Kaako, Dach
2020: Lafrenier, Byfield, Stutzle
A single cup from that group so far. Seguin won it as a rookie, only played half the playoff games.
Now that could very well change this year if Colorado, Edmonton, or New York wins.
But really it's more about drafting well over a long period of time, no matter where you draft.
Early picks help with that, but teams like Chicago, LA, Pittsburgh had success because of their strong early picks, as well as finding late round gems.
Tanking is not the solution. And really it only worked for Chicago and Pittsburgh.
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I'd argue more that it's about drafting at the top of the draft, and then drafting very well throughout the drafts, doing well in free agency, and doing excellent work in the trade market.
You need all four to win.
- Flames have done a good job of drafting outside of the first round.
- Flames have done a good job in the trade market
- Flames have done an average job in free agency. For our successes in Markstrom and Tanev, we still have north of $6M sunk into Lucic (thanks to Neal) and Brouwer's payout.
- Flames have not drafted in the top 3 (and more importantly, have no drafted in the top 3 in the right year)
This is not a formula that has proven itself as something that comes together to build a championship quality team (or even a consistent playoff team)
The reality is the elite few have won the majority of all Stanley Cups in the modern NHL. Not having at least one of those truly elite players (Hedman, Crosby, Toews, Kane, Ovechkin, Doughty) puts you at an incredible disadvantage and more or less means - with a good deal of certainty, that you aren't going to win a Stanley Cup.
It just is what it is.
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Originally Posted by Macho0978
It’s only a good option if presented to you. Like Gaudreau walks via UFA sure let’s do it. He resigns it won’t happen
But this stat shows the rebuild get first overall and have a dynasty model is more a 2005 to 2011 thing. 2nd lockout made it more difficult to accomplish
Tampa wins the cup again and and your looking a 19 year old seguin who was a healthy scratch/4th liner in that playoffs as the only top 3 pick since 2010 to win a cup
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I don't think it shows that at all. Look at the Championship teams, just because the most recent top 3 draft pickers haven't won yet, doesn't take away from the fact that other top-3 picks are the backbones of the Championship teams we see every season. I think what it shows is that you need the top-3 elite level talent to act as the foundation of your team, and then your GM has to do an elite job of building ontop of that foundation - and it's not always fast, but it's still the only way to win a Cup.
Elite GMs also put this into their plan. Look at what Yzerman is doing in Detroit. He's been steadily selling, and hoping to bottom out every year. You build your foundation through the top of the draft, and then accumulate as many depth picks as you can while you go along.