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Old 04-03-2022, 06:19 PM   #4893
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Originally Posted by Plett25 View Post
Once they fix their own society, they can once again have the privilege of participating in ours.
Russians widely support the war they are being told about, not the one that is actually happening in Ukraine. And is it totally the Russian's people's fault or their political elites who have become experts at information control and indoctrination? Even in the West we are very susceptible to this (see right wing movements/Trump and that was only for a few years), but the Russians grew up in and have been subject to it for a hundred years.

Modern Russia didn't/couldn't really throw away the indoctrination of the Soviet Union is a huge of the problem because it was useful to those who ended up in power after the Soviet Union collapse. To this day war and the state are still institutionally glorified and the enemies of the state are almost sub-human. Compare war and armies in most Western nations which are view more as a necessary evil and a price paid for freedoms enjoyed.

In Russia tho, there are still huge military parades going on yearly in the Kremlin, something that no western nation practices. Some schools in Russia also still heavily emphasize their Soviet past, the glories of the great Patriotic war, and children are still indoctrinated about the military and personal sacrifice for the country at an early age. Really bugs me to see small children repeating this type of propaganda. See the DW video on this:


This type of indoctrination, pride in the state, coupled with the collective economic trauma they've experienced from the 90s really were the perfect conditions for Russians to give their power to strong leaders who take away their freedom for perceived economic stability and "growth", much like the deal Pointman has repeatedly stated Russian's have made. And in turn further fuels political elites who indoctrinate the population. How does that cycle get broken?

Sadly for Russians, the type of economic stability under an unconstrained government is always an façade. Video below goes over the bad economics of this type of growth in Russia.

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