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Old 03-07-2022, 09:45 AM   #3204
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root View Post
Giving them everything they want essentially justifies the conflict and tells the world that Putin was right.

It also says you can do #### like this with impunity and without repercussion

Not a chance can you send that message on either issue
At the end of the day, the Ukraine can't join NATO and won't get the Crimea back. What's new in the agreement is the separatist provinces in the east. There had already been a fairly major ongoing conflict there, de facto separatist governments in power, and likely eventual "independence", at some point.

What Russia is demanding is the likely outcome, it's a question of the amount of blood shed it takes to get there.

Imo no one wins here. Russia tried to flex, but revealed themselves as pretty incompetent. Hopefully, the west finally moves away from buying oil from totalitarian states, which was something that they didn't need to do on the first place.

There's still major room for repercussions, in the form of heavy economic sanctions. The West needs to stick to their guns.
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