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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
True. But longer term thinking is needed here.
1) What's the goal here? If it's to turn the populace against Putin, it'll take a lot of suffering first.
2) After the goal is achieved, what then? If you don't assist heavily in the new Russia, Putin II comes in as that's how we got here last time.
Tens of millions of middle class citizens are losing everything here and there'll be work to be done to fix it
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From a western prospective, I think the ideal thing would be to split Russia up into 4 to 5 different countries, so they lose such a dominant population and resource position over the rest of Europe.
The two big problems with this, is in the 20th century we have already seen many problem with large alliances drawing other countries borders. And the reason this wasn't attempted at the end of the USSR, is we wanted something strong and stable to be in control of all of those nukes. Not really certain what the solution is, but Putin would be much weaker as the lead of a Moscow or St Petersburg city-state or the small republic of Volga.... But I don't know what you do about the first two problems to make this a palatable goal for western societies, so best case Russia pulls back from all Ukrainian territories and overthrows Putin, so we can wait another 30 years for something like this to boil over again.